[108211] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: the Intercage mess
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.)
Thu Sep 25 10:22:25 2008
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:21:56 -0500
From: "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <LarrySheldon@cox.net>
CC: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20080925111207.GA2611@gsp.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:10:42PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
>> I said _new_ approach. I agree that it was overdue, but they are being
>> cooperative with the anti-abuse community, so I think it is appropriate
>> to give them an opportunity to deliver on their promise.
>
> We did that. In 2003. And the abuse continued, and got worse.
>
> We did that. In 2004. And the abuse continued, and got worse.
>
> We did that. In 2005. And the abuse continued, and got worse.
>
> And so on.
>
> I suggest at least making a perfunctory effort to acquaint yourself with
> the long, sordid history of Atrivo/Intercage, and its numerous prior
> (and utterly specious) claims of "cooperation" and "reform" before
> commenting further.
What was the deal about doing the same thing over and over and over and
over, each time expecting the outcome to be different?
