[108021] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Atrivo/Intercage
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Mon Sep 22 16:52:44 2008
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080922203331.GA57011@web1.wotanworks.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:52:28 -0400
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On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Tom Sparks (Applied Operations) wrote:
> Basically is what it boils down to for me - its easy to blame
> an NSP/ISP/Hoster for what their clients do, it takes real
> dedication to
> find out whats *actually* going on.
Tom,
Atrivo is not just a spammer, and Intercage has _not_ "taken care of"
problems - unless you count moving IP addresses around as "taking care
of" things. I'm sure the people downloading child pr0n or hosting
virus / C&C servers were very inconvenienced from having to change a
hostname. Pardon me if I am incredulous. And not because we were not
dedicated in trying to find out what was *actually* going on. Try
reading up on your friend before accusing the community of not doing
due diligence.
And don't give me any BS about not reading his abuse@ mail.
Eventually ignorance (willful ignorance?) in the service of evil
becomes indistinguishable from malice.
Basically, THAT is what it boils down to for me, and apparently
everyone else as well.
--
TTFN,
patrick
