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Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Seth Mattinen)
Wed Sep 17 14:27:25 2008

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:27:13 -0700
From: Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <200809171403.43278.lowen@pari.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:34:22 Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch wrote:
>>> At the end of the day, nobody is going to drop packets for amazon's
>>> IP space.
> 
>> I'm afraid reality disagrees with you - there already are networks
>> doing it.
> 
> Indeed.  Google's e-mail servers get on the various DNSBL's frequently.


I occasionally get in to an argument with a customer who is trying to
get mail from someone after a spam run came out of a google mail server
and landed it on a DNSBL. The argument presented to me always boils down
to "Google could never do anything wrong" or "Google is too big to do
anything wrong" and I should immediately stop recommending any DNSBL
that would dare to block Google.

~Seth


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