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Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Thu Aug 14 15:30:08 2008

From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
To: <michael.dillon@bt.com> <michael.dillon@bt.com>
In-Reply-To: <C0F2465B4F386241A58321C884AC7ECC078EE9BD@E03MVZ2-UKDY.domain1.systemhost.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:59 -0700
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:15 PM, <michael.dillon@bt.com> <michael.dillon@bt.com 
 > wrote:
>> And here I thought IANA handed out ASnums and IP address
>> blocks to ARIN (and RIPE and LACNIC and AfriNIC and APNIC and
>> the IETF for specific protocol requirements)...
> We are talking Internet operations, not Internet politics.

Indeed.

> People don't care where the numbers came from, they care
> who actually got the rights to use them, and then what
> those orgs did with the rights, i.e. an IP addr block owner
> may delegate the rights to announce a subset of their space
> to a specific ASnum holder.

Yep.  And as with DNSSEC, you, as a network operator, get a choice.   
You can configure a single trust anchor corresponding to the actual  
address allocation flow and follow a chain of authority down to the  
leaf (end user or ISP) allocation or you can configure a number of  
trust anchors and figure out how to deal with cross-certifications  
resulting from the multiple roots.  Ignoring politics, the technically  
and architecturally cleaner approach is obvious to me.  However, as I  
mentioned, it is challenging to ignore the layer 9 politics.

Regards,
-drc



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