[106825] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Martin Hannigan)
Thu Aug 14 13:02:20 2008
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:01:26 -0000
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From: "Martin Hannigan" <hannigan@verneglobal.com>
To: "brett watson" <brett@the-watsons.org>, <nanog@nanog.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: brett watson [mailto:brett@the-watsons.org]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:47 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP
> space bymistake
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> On Aug 14, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
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> > bottom line: the irr is a hack, not a formal solution.
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> I don't think the IRR is so much a hack (it's a tool), but we're
> lacking the process and infrastructure to vet/validate that a given
> ASN is *authorized* to originate a prefix, and all of the policy bits
> (which the IRR has if you use it) associated with which ASNs should
> propagate the prefix, etc...
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> We're lacking the authority and delegation model that DNS has, I
think?
Some of the RIR's have been working diligently on this stuff and you can
see proposals, at least in the ARIN region, where there is a concerted
effort at credentialing allocations. If you read between the lines and
know the people and their funding sources, you can assume that there is
a high level of attention to this, contrary to what we read in the press
about DHS et. Al.=20
Some of this activity is likely to tie into RIR transfer process i.e.
the titling of ip address allocations. At least I think so.
Disclaimer: This is a personal opinion only and I invite mailbox flames
correcting.=20
Best,
-M<
