[106516] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Thu Jul 31 14:45:50 2008
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:45:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Joe Maimon <jmaimon@ttec.com>
In-Reply-To: <4891FCE6.4050308@ttec.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Joe Maimon wrote:
>> You try something, see if it works. Then try something a little bit less,
>> see if it works, and so on.
>
>
> If what you are saying translates to
>
> "How much pain can we inflict on our customers before they break (whether or
> not it increases revenue or decreases costs)?"
More like "let's give it a shot, see if they are on to us. Best case we
suceeded, worst case we give a little way and try again. In all likelihood
we will end up better off, and at the worst at a regular starting position
for the deal/negotiation/kick in the nuts.
> Then yes, it is inherently malicious, but of a natural predatory sort.
Isn't malicious, just not very ethical. Having been on the recieving end a
few times.. you don't always know it is happening.
But now that we all released some steam, I don't think billing practices
is really our expertise here.. although many of us techies negotiate the
bandwidth and peering for some very odd reason.
Gadi.
