[105410] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dustin Jurman)
Sun Jun 22 22:26:59 2008
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:26:31 -0400
In-Reply-To: <8F70CD2A-307B-46C5-A8F9-006B568F1827@cisco.com>
From: "Dustin Jurman" <dustin@rseng.net>
To: "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins@cisco.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
We're golden!
DSJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Dobbins [mailto:rdobbins@cisco.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:20 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry?
(Re:Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)
On Jun 22, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
> so, i'm not whining, just pointing out that this is a sea change, =20
> the end of an era.
And it's even more significant in that large enterprise customers and =20
others will have explicitly *whitelisted* the IP blocks associated =20
with these services. While static IPs are available for EC2 and for =20
the other services, as you point out, it can't last in an IPv4 world. =20
Later on, as the technologies mature and standards emerge, we'll see =20
automagic arbitraging of jobs/loads/tasks between clouds, so things =20
will be even more diffuse in terms of pinpointing the actual sources =20
of undesirable traffic or other antisocial behavior (e.g., a spam =20
engine may be resident in one cloud and making use of network =20
resources/proxies in another cloud, that kind of thing; 'botnets in =20
the sky', as it were).
This is far different from free email Google or Hotmail - these cloud =20
services (EC2, Mosso, Slicehost, Terremark's Enterprise Cloud, =20
Telstra's new service, AppEngine, et.al.) are where many popular new =20
Internet applications will live, and, even more significantly, where =20
an increasing amount large-scale enterprise computing (like banking, =20
pharma, government, and so forth) will take place.
I foresee interesting times ahead.
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