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re: URGENT! Root Servers not updated

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christian Nielsen)
Thu Jul 3 02:31:05 1997

Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:22:12 -0600 (MDT)
From: Christian Nielsen <cnielsen@nielsen.net>
To: Marc Slemko <marcs@znep.com>
cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970702235449.12604E-100000@alive.znep.com>

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Marc Slemko wrote:

> Erm... most routing databases use asxxxx, but the NIC uses xxxx.  eg.
> whois -h whois.internic.net 6171

	Correct, with the nic, you need to only put the #

> Note, however, that just because an AS shows as not existing in the
> InterNIC's database doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  From what the InterNIC
> has told me, they have no policy of having pointer records for AS blocks
> allocated to regional registries; it happens sometimes, it doesn't happen
> sometimes, all depending on what they feel like doing.  That means that to
> find the owner of an AS you may need to query every regional registery in
> the world.  Right now there are few enough such registries to make it
> possible, but it is certainly an annoyance. 

	But if you were to go to 

	ftp://rs.internic.net/netinfo/asn.txt 

	You can see who they belong to. 

For example

7467-7722      APNIC-AS-2-BLOCK                   [DC396]

belongs to APNIC.

But what I don't understand, is why do companies like microsoft
getting a block of AS numbers?

8068-8075      MICROSOFT-AS-BLOCK                 [DW727]

If they were going to use them to route their internal networks, than
they could use 

64512-65535    IANA-RSVD2                         [JKR1]

like everyone else.

Oh well....

Christian

PS. I also know that the above file is out of date and needs to be
updated as I have seen AS numbers above 10,000 assigned to companies.

   Autonomous System Name: NASA-AERONET-AS
   Autonomous System Number: 10343




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