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What is being 'ON NET' good for these days?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Drew Weaver)
Mon Feb 18 08:02:53 2008

From: Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com>
To: "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:00:29 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


        Howdy, over the past 4-6 months or so I have been attempting to fin=
d various means of interconnecting our main POP in a very small market (Fro=
m a telecom options standpoint) in Ohio with one of the IX points in the US=
 or at least a facility in another state/city which offers more options for=
 us. It appears we have outgrown our market (we are beginning to hit the "W=
e only offer DS-3/OC-3 in that market..." conversations..) and we will eith=
er need to move, or we will need to get creative. (option A is out..) I've =
found the willingness of the carriers with whom we've had long standing pro=
fitable relationships to work with us in achieving this goal well, lacking.=
 We are currently ON NET with 3 major international telecommunication compa=
nies who seem very willing to keep pumping their transit into our facility =
but are not willing to allow us to use their network to cross-connect to ot=
her carriers or even to connect to their co-location facilities in other ma=
rkets...?

        It could be that I am approaching them with the wrong terminology, =
or it could be that I am going about this in the wrong way altogether. Does=
 anyone else have experience growing a network out of your local market and=
 success/horror stories going along with it? We aren't really interested in=
 a second datacenter. We would just like to connect our current datacenter =
via a redundant fiber ring of some sort to an IX or a city which has more t=
ransit choices than Podunk. Also any advice on where would actually be a go=
od place from Ohio (Chicago is an obvious choice...) to cross connect would=
 be helpful as well, but I am mainly looking for opinions or thoughts on te=
chnical challenges of "doing it yourself" and trying to get telecoms to hel=
p. (it seems like it would be cheaper initially to buy backhaul from a tele=
com but in the long run to build it yourself, but I am not sure on maintena=
nce costs..)

Thanks in advance.

-Drew






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