[102217] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rod Beck)
Fri Feb 1 17:58:24 2008
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 22:42:02 -0000
From: "Rod Beck" <Rod.Beck@hiberniaatlantic.com>
To: "Martin Hannigan" <hannigan@gmail.com>,
"Ahmed Maged \(amaged\)" <amaged@cisco.com>
Cc: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Well, when you have all these cables running through narrow straits or =
converging to the same stretch of beach, it does not strike me as at all =
extraordinary. =20
An important factor is cooperation. Is there cooperation between the =
fiber optic guys and fishing associations to minimize hits?=20
I would wager there is close to zero.=20
Roderick S. Beck
Director of European Sales
Hibernia Atlantic
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris
http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.=20
Landline: 33-1-4346-3209.
French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.
AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com
rodbeck@erols.com
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu on behalf of Martin Hannigan
Sent: Fri 2/1/2008 10:33 PM
To: Ahmed Maged (amaged)
Cc: Steven M. Bellovin; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption
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On Feb 1, 2008 2:25 PM, Ahmed Maged (amaged) <amaged@cisco.com> wrote:
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> "Does look normal to me" is far from a global conspiracy theory.
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> Thank you for the translation but I think you got it wrong.
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I agree, there should be a sanity check as I understand that they are
within close proximity of each other. Two ships slipping anchors and
causing cable breaks in the same area is odd, but if there's a storm
in the area, that would not be that much of a surprise. There should
be some logic to the madness.
I think that the moral of the story is that "more" operators should
try to better understand what diversity means beyond the metro. The
challenge is getting the information. The Teleography series of
internet/sub maps are interesting. They don't demonstrate diversity
though, since they show figurative routing. Those nice and straight
lines are a pipe dream.
-M<
-M<
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, when you have all these cables running through =
narrow straits or converging to the same stretch of beach, it does not =
strike me as at all extraordinary. <BR>
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An important factor is cooperation. Is there cooperation between the =
fiber optic guys and fishing associations to minimize hits?<BR>
<BR>
I would wager there is close to zero.<BR>
<BR>
Roderick S. Beck<BR>
Director of European Sales<BR>
Hibernia Atlantic<BR>
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris<BR>
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Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.<BR>
Landline: 33-1-4346-3209.<BR>
French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.<BR>
AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth<BR>
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com<BR>
rodbeck@erols.com<BR>
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu on behalf of Martin Hannigan<BR>
Sent: Fri 2/1/2008 10:33 PM<BR>
To: Ahmed Maged (amaged)<BR>
Cc: Steven M. Bellovin; nanog@merit.edu<BR>
Subject: Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption<BR>
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On Feb 1, 2008 2:25 PM, Ahmed Maged (amaged) <amaged@cisco.com> =
wrote:<BR>
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> "Does look normal to me" is far from a global conspiracy =
theory.<BR>
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> Thank you for the translation but I think you got it wrong.<BR>
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I agree, there should be a sanity check as I understand that they =
are<BR>
within close proximity of each other. Two ships slipping anchors and<BR>
causing cable breaks in the same area is odd, but if there's a storm<BR>
in the area, that would not be that much of a surprise. There should<BR>
be some logic to the madness.<BR>
<BR>
I think that the moral of the story is that "more" operators =
should<BR>
try to better understand what diversity means beyond the metro. The<BR>
challenge is getting the information. The Teleography series of<BR>
internet/sub maps are interesting. They don't demonstrate =
diversity<BR>
though, since they show figurative routing. Those nice and straight<BR>
lines are a pipe dream.<BR>
<BR>
-M<<BR>
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-M<<BR>
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