[352] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: urgent [was: re: Nu Delta]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Laura G Dean)
Mon Apr 30 18:40:40 2001
Message-Id: <200104302239.SAA25055@quiche-lorraine.mit.edu>
To: Aimee L Smith <alsmith@MIT.EDU>
cc: "Jimmy_B,MajMoola,MechWarrior,etc._Chien-ta Wu" <jimmbswu@MIT.EDU>,
mit-talk@MIT.EDU
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:08:07 EDT."
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:39:11 EDT
From: Laura G Dean <lgdean@MIT.EDU>
Aimee: In general, I think it would work better if you aimed your
arguments at people who don't already agree with you.
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:08:07 EDT, alsmith@mit.edu wrote:
>
> QUESTION: was it free speech for the hecklers at ATO
> to yell racist and sexist remarks to members of The Roots?
Another question: does anybody here know what exactly was said?
> And it is *so* good to learn feminist history from a man young
> enough for me to have changed his diapers. Last I checked, women
Um.
> The rules cut both ways on this one, not to mention the subtle?
> reference to alcohol w/ BYOB written on them... and if you advocate
Side note: given MIT's alcohol policy, one needs to specify "we won't
allow alcohol there" vs. "it's allowed but we can't serve any."
Alcohol is not entirely orthogonal to any potential sexism, but it's
also not a reason to condemn a poster.
> Don't worry, I know you and the other phallus-wielders don't
> like what I have to say. I know that this list is dominated
> by *male* voices, I know that when someone says something flip,
> they don't get asked to stop unless they are a woman... or in
There I was, thinking Wally was a guy's name...
> So many cowards in this world, so so many cowards.
I'm not sure whether that's me or not.
Sorry for my sarcasm in this message, but I'm hoping it will point to
how your writing style has a tendency to make it hard to agree with
you... even in cases where I otherwise would.
OTOH, I'm not an expert in changing people's minds, either,
so I don't have much evidence to back up my claims here.
It's just my intuition, based on how I react to different
people who disagree with me on issues I feel strongly about.
Laura
p.s. I know some of the content of this message was about MIT events
(ATO and NuD), and some was meta-discussion about posting style.
Please forgive the latter; I hope it was useful and not distracting.
