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Re: [Mit-talk] Upcoming UA Issue - Student Group Property Ownership

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Clayton Sims)
Tue Oct 17 15:37:34 2006

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:36:36 -0400
From: Clayton Sims <ctsims@mit.edu>
To: Brian Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Alexander J Werbos <awerbos@mit.edu>, Adam Seering <aseering@mit.edu>,
        mit-talk@mit.edu
Errors-To: mit-talk-bounces@mit.edu

So, it's still not entirely clear to me whether groups "regularly funded by Finboard" would have all of their resources thrown into the communal pool "for the MIT undergraduate community". I've been in charge of property/finances for a number of groups that raise very large sums of money much as the Tech does, completely independently of any Finboard input. If these groups for a couple of years get 100$ in Finboard money, now any property purchased with the groups budget is able to be shifted around the MIT community at large? 

If a group petitions the GSC for funding, and Finboard for funding, and uses both funding sources to purchase a very nice set of audio mixing equipment, how can the "MIT Undergraduate Community" lay claim to this equipment? 

On a different note, isn't this attitude/process just going to cause groups that otherwise would have lied slightly dormant for a few years to instead be cannibalized and disbanded? Let us say that (Athena Forbid) Voodoo magazine absolutely couldn't find students to run the magazine for a year or two. The computers and equipment lie dormant, and then someone picks things back up when the human resources are available. In this new vision, student groups notice their hasn't been a Voodoo in a while, and decide that they deserve the computers instead. Things get reallocated and MIT is down a student group, as you've now created a _huge_ student time cost into getting the ball rolling again. Endless appeals to reclaim property that was reallocated doesn't really seem to be helping anyone.

-Clayton

On 10/16/06 8:10 PM, Brian Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu> wrote:


    Would the UA pay the Logs for repair of the studio if one of these
    groups break it? What about upkeep costs?

    Alex, you should know that groups regularly pay LSC for advertising
    slides, the Tech for advertisements beyond the one page free granted
    by the Tech to each group, etc. In your communist world, would the UA
    also pay the printer for the Tech when groups each want big ads
    weekly?

    Actually, the Tech's got a fortune in the bank. I can think of lots
    of groups that could make use of that more efficiently. Can the
    croquet club petition for access to the Tech's cash? Large-screen TV?

    -Brian

    -- 
    Brian Sniffen bts@alum.mit.edu

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