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Re: [APO-L] Proposed: Older Undergrads as advisors?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matt Cross)
Sun Sep 12 18:08:55 2004
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:07:52 -0400
Reply-To: section.74.chair@apo.org
From: Matt Cross <mrforklift@cfl.rr.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To: <004901c49913$62afe720$236f3218@quix>
I do agree that fixing the small stuff does take care of a lot of the big
stuff. However, it has been my experience that the rule limiting who can be
an advisor has caused more good than bad. The students I have served for
the past 5 years have not expressed a complaint about making older students
advisors; rather they have expressed concerns on how to recruit advisors.
Broadening the definition only does a stop-gap measure -- it does not solve
the problem.
Matt Cross
Section 74 Chair -- Alpha Phi Omega
(407) 808-8170
mailto:section.74.chair@apo.org
http://www.section74.org
-----Original Message-----
From: J Bellville [mailto:quix@adelphia.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 5:57 PM
To: section.74.chair@apo.org
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Proposed: Older Undergrads as advisors?
Matt...
I would have to say that this is not really muddying any waters. The best
way to address a problem is to fix the little stuff... for some reason the
big things seem to fix themselves when you do (at least it has worked that
way for me). I think that a good advisor can go a long way in helping a
chapter to address membership issues and giving people other perspectives to
make a chapter more inclusive. When I was rush chair for my chapter we had
by far the largest group that I had heard of before or since. The problem
was that while I could get people interested in APO and checking it out... I
could not find a way to include every potential member and the pledge class
suffered.
To say that addressing an advisor issue and creating the potential for a
more diverse chapter dynamic is muddying the waters, seems too quick a
dismissal.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Cross" <mrforklift@cfl.rr.com>
To: <APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Proposed: Older Undergrads as advisors?
> There is an inherent danger to allowing that type of veto power to the
> SC and the RD -- since advisory membership is a type of membership in
> a Chapter, giving veto powers to someone not from that Chapter goes
> against the By-Laws where it says a Chapter can determine its own
membership.
>
> In all honesty, Chapters are facing more difficult issues than this in
> regards to membership. I would rather not muddy the waters with this
> and help the Chapters focus on structuring better membership programs
> that accurately reflect the National Fraternity's goals and vision.
>
> Matt Cross
> Section 74 Chair -- Alpha Phi Omega
> (407) 808-8170
> mailto:section.74.chair@apo.org
> http://www.section74.org
>
