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Re: [APO-L] Uniform Knots

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG)
Tue Mar 23 13:48:19 2004

Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:48:04 -0500
Reply-To: "Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG" <Randolph.Finder@ngb.army.mil>
From: "Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG" <Randolph.Finder@ngb.army.mil>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU

> So I was doing my regular perusal through eBay, when I came
> across these two
> items:
>If memory serves me, these are not official knots, and therefore, not able
>to be worn on the uniform, right?  Not that I need any more square knots
>(I'm starting to reach the "high-ranking general" look), but I'm curious
for
>others.  I'm sure there are certainly enough people to answer this for me
>here :)

>-Justin
And here one is. :)

I'm *still* surprised that they are selling these on Ebay, since Veturning
Crew 697 makes them up. They sell them for $5 at their website.
http://www.geocities.com/venturing697/index.html


As stated on Ebay, these are Privately issued Knots. Which means they have
just as much place on the scout uniform as the "Overtrained" patch or the
translator strip for "Southern Drawl". Various brothers I've talked to have
seen privately created patches with the phrase Alpha Phi Omega
representative made up for use in the "position slot" of the uniform where
Scoutmaster, Scribe or Den Chief go.

At this time the only proper way to represent Alpha Phi Omega on a Scouting
Uniform is through the use of the Alpha Phi Omega patch. It has the Alpha
Phi Omega key on it (without the vertical column "behind") and should be
either sewn on the optional patch location on the right pocket or with a
small loop attached to the right pocket button. Other patches for Alpha Phi
Omega Scouting events may of course be worn there as well.

However in the future, this will change slightly. The Scouting and Youth
Services Committee is in the process of creating a Herbert G. Horton Service
to Youth Award. This will be a National level Alpha Phi Omega award to
single individuals (similar to the Corning Chapter Reviver award or the
Maude Walker Young Spouse award (See
http://www.apo.org/publications/documents/chapter_awards.pdf). Individuals
who receive this award that are also members of the Boy Scouts of America
may represent this award on their Boy Scout Uniform with the Community
Organization Award Knot. (Gold on Purple). The fact sheet on the Community
Organization Award including the other organizations with awards which allow
the wearing of the Knot is at http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-582.html
and a picture of the Knot is at
http://www.usscouts.org/awards/community_org.html . The Herbert G. Horton
Award does not require that that service be related to BSA.

Further information on the Award will follow later this year(2004).

YiLFS
Randy Finder
Member, National History & Archives Committee
Member, National Media & Tech Committee

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