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Re: [APO-L] Board Liability
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Gallagher)
Wed Jan 21 11:28:06 2004
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:28:07 -0500
Reply-To: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
From: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
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RE: [APO-L] Board LiabilityHOWEVER, only those perceived to be involved =
would be named. Otherwise the suee didn't do enough research or is just =
imperceptive (yeah, I know [other stuff], look who's talking) for not =
having enough sense to know that probably not everyone was involved.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Price, Todd=20
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Board Liability
Yes Rich...the key phrase here is: "...lawsuits against the national =
fraternity".
But what traditionally happens in any such litigation is that the =
organization/corporation is named, but then so is every individual =
member of the board. So now everyone is on the defensive, and often =
they will have to make an appearance in court or threaten countersuit to =
have their name taken off the original complaint.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vehlow, Richard [mailto:Richard.Vehlow@ogs.state.ny.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:12 AM
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Board Liability
I was under the impression that lawsuits against the national =
fraternity are after the National Fraternity's assets- being income, =
property and holdings. Not the assets of the individual volunteers or =
employees. Corporations are set up that way- I assume that as a large =
incorporated organization, we were too.
-Rich Vehlow "REV"=20
Section 88 Leadership Coordinator=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Packy Anderson [mailto:packy@dardan.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:06 AM=20
To: Vehlow, Richard=20
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Board Liability=20
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Vehlow, Richard wrote:=20
> I was having a dinner conversation with two fellow section staff =
members=20
> the other day. We eventually stumbled upon the omnipresent risk=20
> management topic, and I apparently learned something interesting. =
If the=20
> fraternity is sued, the 18-member board can be personally liable!=20
You've only JUST learned about Board liability? Where have you been =
the=20
past couple years? That's one of the biggest reasons behind the =
push for=20
Risk Management, and one of the biggest considerations responsible =
people=20
make when they run for a position on the board!=20
-packy=20
--=20
Packy Anderson =
packy@dardan.com=20
In this life, the love you give becomes the only lasting treasure=20
And what you lose will be what you win=20
A well that echoes down too deep to measure=20
A silver coin rings down that well, you could never spend too much,=20
A diamond echoes deeper still=20
And you'll always have what you gave to love,=20
You will always have what you gave to love=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HOWEVER, only those perceived to be =
involved would=20
be named. Otherwise the suee didn't do enough research or is=20
just imperceptive (yeah, I know [other stuff], look who's talking) =
for not=20
having enough sense to know that probably not everyone was=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DTodd.Price@Detroitdiesel.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Todd.Price@Detroitdiesel.com">Price, Todd</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 21, =
2004 11:15=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APO-L] Board=20
Liability</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D452281216-21012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Yes=20
Rich...the key phrase here is: "...lawsuits against the national=20
fraternity".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D452281216-21012004><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D452281216-21012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>But=20
what traditionally happens in any such litigation is that the=20
organization/corporation is named, but then so is every individual =
member of=20
the board. So now everyone is on the defensive, and often they =
will have=20
to make an appearance in court or threaten countersuit to have their =
name=20
taken off the original complaint.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D452281216-21012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Vehlow, Richard=20
[mailto:Richard.Vehlow@ogs.state.ny.us]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
January=20
21, 2004 11:12 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
Re: [APO-L] Board Liability<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I was under the impression that lawsuits against =
the=20
national fraternity are after the National Fraternity's assets- =
being=20
income, property and holdings. Not the assets of the individual =
volunteers=20
or employees. Corporations are set up that way- I assume that as a =
large=20
incorporated organization, we were too.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-Rich Vehlow "REV"</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Section 88=20
Leadership Coordinator</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
Packy Anderson [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:packy@dardan.com">mailto:packy@dardan.com</A>]</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:06 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>To: Vehlow, Richard</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: Re: =
[APO-L]=20
Board Liability</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Vehlow, Richard wrote:</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> I was having a dinner conversation with two fellow =
section staff=20
members</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> the other day. We eventually =
stumbled=20
upon the omnipresent risk</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> management =
topic, and=20
I apparently learned something interesting. If the</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> fraternity is sued, the 18-member board can be =
personally=20
liable!</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>You've only JUST learned about Board =
liability? Where=20
have you been the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>past couple years? =
That's=20
one of the biggest reasons behind the push for</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Risk=20
Management, and one of the biggest considerations responsible =
people</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>make when they run for a position on the =
board!</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-packy</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>--</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Packy=20
=
Anderson  =
; =
&=
nbsp; =20
packy@dardan.com</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>In this life, the love you give becomes the only =
lasting=20
treasure</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>And what you lose will be what =
you=20
win</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>A well that echoes down too deep to=20
measure</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>A silver coin rings down that =
well, you=20
could never spend too much,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>A diamond =
echoes deeper=20
still</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>And you'll always have what you gave =
to=20
love,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>You will always have what you gave =
to=20
love</FONT> </P><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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