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Re: Paper Cutter (WAS: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ellen Kranzer)
Sat Aug 29 00:15:34 2015

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Cc: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.mit.edu>, Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>,
        Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>,
        APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.edu>, APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
From: Ellen Kranzer <ccrazy@panix.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 00:15:28 -0400
To: Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com>


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I forgot to look at the paper cutter last week while I was on campus last we=
ek. If the hinge is shot, it should be replaced. If the hinge just needs to b=
e adjusted, the blade can be sharpened professionally if nobody had the skil=
ls/ tools.There's a place around the corner from me and Joe, there maybe som=
eplace convenient closer to campus.=20

-- Ellen

Sent from my iPod

> On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> The blade needs sharpening. It's a much longer blade than I've ever had to=
 sharpen in my own personal tool box, and I wouldn't want to experiment on e=
quipment owned by the chapter.=20
>=20
> The hinge is loose, and it requires care and shoulder strength to keep the=
 blade and hinge aligned properly. Perhaps more shoulder strength than the a=
verage middle aged woman has, regardless of mechanical know-how.
>=20
> The edges of the shelf are rough and could use cleaning up, and the ruler a=
nd guide markings could stand to be re-drawn with a straightedge and some ca=
reful measurements, but that's minor compared to the above two issues.
>=20
> YiS
>=20
> Benazeer
>=20
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu>=
 wrote:
>> Benazeer:
>>=20
>> Thanks for this knowledge.  I find it a little balky to get good cuts
>> with it, but not troublesome.  But if you are having trouble, enough
>> others will.
>>=20
>> So replacing it is fine with me.  I suggest a similar blade length.
>>=20
>> If people want, I could try and sharpen the blade first.  Might be
>> something else wrong with it.
>>=20
>> Otherwise, do alumni want to fund a replacement?
>>=20
>> Does Press Shop Manager Vicki want to spend Press Fund money, or ask
>> the actives for funds from other AX accounts?
>>=20
>> Once a replacement is found, I could take the old one home.  Be
>> interesting to try and get it working better.
>>=20
>> yiLFS -len
>>=20
>>    Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:53:27 -0400
>>    From: Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com>
>>    To: len tower jr <tower@alum.mit.edu>
>>    Cc: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>, Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu=
>,
>>        Ellen Kranzer <ccrazy@panix.com>, APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.ed=
u>,
>>        APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
>>    Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table
>>=20
>>    For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disrepair. I tried usi=
ng it
>>    to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising all possible ca=
re
>>    with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nervous about my
>>    personal safety. I wouldn't use it on anything I was giving to a print=
shop
>>    customer. If I recall my long-ago active days correctly, it was in bad=

>>    disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.
>>=20
>>    --Benazeer
>>=20
>>    On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit=
.edu>
>>    wrote:
>>=20
>>    >    Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400
>>    >    From: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>
>>    >    To: "tower@alum.mit.edu" <tower@alum.mit.edu>
>>    >    Cc: Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>, "apo-om@mit.edu" <
>>    > apo-om@mit.edu>
>>    >    Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearranging the APOffice
>>    >
>>    >    Hi Len,
>>    >
>>    >    To answer your questions:
>>    >
>>    >      ...
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >    *In your other email, you mentioned the vise and.    ....   2) Th=
e
>>    >    vise as it is right now is not great for office space. We will
>>    >    probably be moving it and the paper cutter; let=C2=B9s talk more a=
bout
>>    >    what surfaces can be used with the vise, but the one it is on rig=
ht
>>    >    now is not great for the front office.
>>    >
>>    >    Best,
>>    >    Vicki
>>    >
>>    > My memory is that Vicki & I had at least one more pair of exchanges
>>    > about the Vice on the Worktable.  I couldn't find them.  She doesn't=

>>    > want the worktable to stay in the APOffice.  She suggested that we j=
ust
>>    > move the vise to another surface along with the paper cutter and the=

>>    > pencil sharpener.  Which isn't safe.
>>    >
>>    > Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain and repair the
>>    > press shop equipment.  It's useful at times for other things.
>>    >
>>    > To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:
>>    >
>>    >  * the vise needs to be near the height it is now.  That is, it need=
s to
>>    >    be mounted at a height so it can be used while standing.  It is
>>    >    unsafe to use it at a lower height.  It is unsafe to use it seate=
d or
>>    >    bent over.  None of the other surfaces in the front APOffice are h=
igh
>>    >    enough.
>>    >
>>    >  * the surface the vice is mounted on has to be thick, and material h=
as
>>    >    able to hold bolts under force over time.  The 'table' has to be
>>    >    sturdy.  The object in the vise has to be held well and steadily.=
  If
>>    >    the surface is thin or weak, it's possible for the vice to detach=

>>    >    suddenly, which is not safe.
>>    >
>>    >  * there has to be a certain amount of working room, around it.  But=

>>    >    that can be created on the fly, depending on how the vise is used=
.
>>    >
>>    > The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is superior to the=

>>    > electric one.  You can get a sharper point with less loss of pencil w=
ith
>>    > it.  It could be relocated.
>>    >
>>    > It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up at the height of th=
e
>>    > worktable.  It could be moved elsewhere.
>>    >
>>    > The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floor space.
>>    > The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor space, which AP=
O
>>    > has over 80%.
>>    > So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floor space APO has=
.
>>    > AX can't afford that floor space?
>>    >
>>    > We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 2011(?).  The las=
t
>>    > time the APOffice was rearranged.  Many options were considered.  We=

>>    > settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the front APOffice.=
  I
>>    > could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so precious for me=

>>    > since the head trauma.  If needed, could someone else dif it out?
>>    >
>>    > I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the worktable in the
>>    > APOffice.  The top of the table can also be used for other things an=
d
>>    > tasks.  The space under could be continue to be used other storage,
>>    > perhaps the ritual equipment..
>>    >
>>    > yiLFS -len
>>    >
>>    >
>=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I forgot to look at the paper cutter l=
ast week while I was on campus last week. If the hinge is shot, it should be=
 replaced. If the hinge just needs to be adjusted, the blade can be sharpene=
d professionally if nobody had the skills/ tools.There's a place around the c=
orner from me and Joe, there maybe someplace convenient closer to campus.&nb=
sp;<br><br>-- Ellen<div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPod</div></div><div><br=
>On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Benazeer Noorani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:benazee=
r@gmail.com">benazeer@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>The blade needs sharpening. It's a=
 much longer blade than I've ever had to sharpen in my own personal tool box=
, and I wouldn't want to experiment on equipment owned by the chapter. <br><=
br></div>The hinge is loose, and it requires care and shoulder strength to k=
eep the blade and hinge aligned properly. Perhaps more shoulder strength tha=
n the average middle aged woman has, regardless of mechanical know-how.<br><=
br></div><div>The edges of the shelf are rough and could use cleaning up, an=
d the ruler and guide markings could stand to be re-drawn with a straightedg=
e and some careful measurements, but that's minor compared to the above two i=
ssues.<br><br></div><div>YiS<br><br></div><div>Benazeer<br></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8=
:16 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tower@al=
um.mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Benazeer:<br>
<br>
Thanks for this knowledge.&nbsp; I find it a little balky to get good cuts<b=
r>
with it, but not troublesome.&nbsp; But if you are having trouble, enough<br=
>
others will.<br>
<br>
So replacing it is fine with me.&nbsp; I suggest a similar blade length.<br>=

<br>
If people want, I could try and sharpen the blade first.&nbsp; Might be<br>
something else wrong with it.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, do alumni want to fund a replacement?<br>
<br>
Does Press Shop Manager Vicki want to spend Press Fund money, or ask<br>
the actives for funds from other AX accounts?<br>
<br>
Once a replacement is found, I could take the old one home.&nbsp; Be<br>
interesting to try and get it working better.<br>
<br>
yiLFS -len<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:53:27 -0400<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;From: Benazeer Noorani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:benazeer@gmail.com=
">benazeer@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;To: len tower jr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">towe=
r@alum.mit.edu</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Cc: Victoria Xiao &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vxiao@mit.edu">vxiao@mi=
t.edu</a>&gt;, Margaret R Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mrwalker@mit.edu">mrw=
alker@mit.edu</a>&gt;,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Ellen Kranzer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ccrazy@panix.=
com">ccrazy@panix.com</a>&gt;, APO Office Manger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:apo-o=
m@mit.edu">apo-om@mit.edu</a>&gt;,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;APO Press &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:apo-printshop@mit=
.edu">apo-printshop@mit.edu</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disrepair. I tr=
ied using it<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising all poss=
ible care<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nervous ab=
out my<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;personal safety. I wouldn't use it on anything I was giving to a=
 printshop<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;customer. If I recall my long-ago active days correctly, it was=
 in bad<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;--Benazeer<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tower Jr. &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;wrote:<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; From: Victoria Xiao &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vxi=
ao@mit.edu">vxiao@mit.edu</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; To: "<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">to=
wer@alum.mit.edu</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">tower@alum.m=
it.edu</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Cc: Margaret R Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
rwalker@mit.edu">mrwalker@mit.edu</a>&gt;, "<a href=3D"mailto:apo-om@mit.edu=
">apo-om@mit.edu</a>" &lt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:apo-om@mit.edu">apo-om@mit.edu</a>&gt;<b=
r>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearrangin=
g the APOffice<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Hi Len,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; To answer your questions:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ...<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; *In your other email, you mentioned the vise a=
nd.&nbsp; &nbsp; ....&nbsp; &nbsp;2) The<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; vise as it is right now is not great for offi=
ce space. We will<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; probably be moving it and the paper cutter; l=
et=C2=B9s talk more about<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; what surfaces can be used with the vise, but t=
he one it is on right<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; now is not great for the front office.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Best,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Vicki<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; My memory is that Vicki &amp; I had at least one more pair=
 of exchanges<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; about the Vice on the Worktable.&nbsp; I couldn't find the=
m.&nbsp; She doesn't<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; want the worktable to stay in the APOffice.&nbsp; She sugg=
ested that we just<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; move the vise to another surface along with the paper cutt=
er and the<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; pencil sharpener.&nbsp; Which isn't safe.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain and r=
epair the<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; press shop equipment.&nbsp; It's useful at times for other=
 things.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; * the vise needs to be near the height it is now.&nb=
sp; That is, it needs to<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; be mounted at a height so it can be used whil=
e standing.&nbsp; It is<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; unsafe to use it at a lower height.&nbsp; It i=
s unsafe to use it seated or<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; bent over.&nbsp; None of the other surfaces i=
n the front APOffice are high<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; enough.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; * the surface the vice is mounted on has to be thick=
, and material has<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; able to hold bolts under force over time.&nbs=
p; The 'table' has to be<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; sturdy.&nbsp; The object in the vise has to b=
e held well and steadily.&nbsp; If<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; the surface is thin or weak, it's possible fo=
r the vice to detach<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; suddenly, which is not safe.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; * there has to be a certain amount of working room, a=
round it.&nbsp; But<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; that can be created on the fly, depending on h=
ow the vise is used.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is super=
ior to the<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; electric one.&nbsp; You can get a sharper point with less l=
oss of pencil with<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; it.&nbsp; It could be relocated.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up at the he=
ight of the<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; worktable.&nbsp; It could be moved elsewhere.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floor spa=
ce.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor space=
, which APO<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; has over 80%.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floor spa=
ce APO has.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; AX can't afford that floor space?<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 2011(?)=
.&nbsp; The last<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; time the APOffice was rearranged.&nbsp; Many options were c=
onsidered.&nbsp; We<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the front=
 APOffice.&nbsp; I<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so preci=
ous for me<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; since the head trauma.&nbsp; If needed, could someone else=
 dif it out?<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the worktabl=
e in the<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; APOffice.&nbsp; The top of the table can also be used for o=
ther things and<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; tasks.&nbsp; The space under could be continue to be used o=
ther storage,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; perhaps the ritual equipment..<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt; yiLFS -len<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</blockquote></div><br></div>
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