[6707] in APO Printshop
Re: FW: W20 access to rooms 450 and 454
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Molly Kosiarek)
Sat Jul 13 15:54:49 2013
In-Reply-To: <20130713130943.GS24674@ringworld.MIT.EDU>
From: Molly Kosiarek <kosiarek@MIT.EDU>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 15:54:13 -0400
To: John Hawkinson <jhawk@mit.edu>
Cc: "lsc@mit.edu" <lsc@mit.edu>, "apo-exec@mit.edu" <apo-exec@mit.edu>,
apo-printshop@mit.edu,
"apo-silkscreen@mit.edu" <apo-silkscreen@mit.edu>
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Hi,
Just so there is less worry, I went to W20-454 and moved all of the fragile
things that APO has out of the way last night (except for the cabinet of
type). So as long as that remains unharmed, this construction shouldn't be
a problem. And it seems like they are willing to work around the cabinet.
Len,
I got the original email, and could forward future space or construction
related notices to apo-silkscreen and apo-printshop if that would be
better/ you would prefer me to do so. We could talk about that off of these
giant lists though :)
Best,
Molly Kosiarek
APO Printshop chair (previous Silkscreening chair)
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:09 AM, John Hawkinson <jhawk@mit.edu> wrote:
> I do not agree with Len.
>
> Involving faculty and deans over something like this is way too much
> like crying wolf and overmanufacturing a crisis. I think CAC merely
> needs to here consistently from more relevant stakeholders that more
> notice is important on these things, and it helps to have multiple
> voices saying the same thing. While there's a case to be made for
> perhaps talking to Phil Walsh (head of CAC) or maaaaaaybe Leah Flynn
> (Assoc. Dean for Student Activities), going any higher than that is
> likely to generate more ill will and re-entrenchment, in my
> estimation, and isn't necessarily wise in of itself.
>
> If anything was actually damaged I suppose I'd feel differently.
>
> --jhawk
>
> Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu> wrote on Sat, 13 Jul 2013
> at 07:36:23 -0400 in <
> alpine.DEB.2.02.1307130727540.15680@department-of-alchemy.MIT.EDU>:
>
> > Your best chance at getting better consideration is for the students
> > to get some Faculty and Deans involved. Maybe get reps from most of
> > the activities with space involved.
> >
> > Might also point out that LSC and APO are both community service
> > organizations that would have loved to help the contractor out by
> > moving stuff, if you only had a week's notice, instead of less than a
> > day.
> >
> > best -Len Tower, Jr. MIT '71, APO and LSC alumnus
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,=A0<div><br></div><div style>Just so there is less worr=
y, I went to W20-454 and moved all of the fragile things that APO has out o=
f the way last night (except for the cabinet of type). So as long as that r=
emains unharmed, this construction shouldn't be a problem. And it seems=
like they are willing to work around the cabinet.=A0</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Len,</div><div style>I got the original ema=
il, and could forward future space or construction related notices to apo-s=
ilkscreen and apo-printshop if that would be better/ you would prefer me to=
do so. We could talk about that off of these giant lists though :)=A0</div=
>
<div style><br></div><div style>Best,</div><div style>Molly Kosiarek</div><=
div style>APO Printshop chair (previous Silkscreening chair)=A0</div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 1=
3, 2013 at 9:09 AM, John Hawkinson <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:=
jhawk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">jhawk@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I do not agree with Len.<br>
<br>
Involving faculty and deans over something like this is way too much<br>
like crying wolf and overmanufacturing a crisis. I think CAC merely<br>
needs to here consistently from more relevant stakeholders that more<br>
notice is important on these things, and it helps to have multiple<br>
voices saying the same thing. While there's a case to be made for<br>
perhaps talking to Phil Walsh (head of CAC) or maaaaaaybe Leah Flynn<br>
(Assoc. Dean for Student Activities), going any higher than that is<br>
likely to generate more ill will and re-entrenchment, in my<br>
estimation, and isn't necessarily wise in of itself.<br>
<br>
If anything was actually damaged I suppose I'd feel differently.<br>
<br>
--jhawk<br>
<br>
Leonard H Tower Jr. <<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">tower@alum.mi=
t.edu</a>> wrote on Sat, 13 Jul 2013<br>
at 07:36:23 -0400 in <<a href=3D"mailto:alpine.DEB.2.02.1307130727540.15=
680@department-of-alchemy.MIT.EDU">alpine.DEB.2.02.1307130727540.15680@depa=
rtment-of-alchemy.MIT.EDU</a>>:<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
> Your best chance at getting better consideration is for the students<b=
r>
> to get some Faculty and Deans involved. =A0Maybe get reps from most of=
<br>
> the activities with space involved.<br>
><br>
> Might also point out that LSC and APO are both community service<br>
> organizations that would have loved to help the contractor out by<br>
> moving stuff, if you only had a week's notice, instead of less tha=
n a<br>
> day.<br>
><br>
> best -Len Tower, Jr. MIT '71, APO and LSC alumnus<br>
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