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Re: hmmm... servers producing per-browser customised output.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Phillips)
Wed Nov 2 02:22:18 1994

Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 08:13:39 +0100
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On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, anthony baxter wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed this? 
> 
> Recently I've noticed several servers generating output customised for
> the browser that is being used - eg http://www.netmarket.com

Lots of people have been designing separate areas for text based and 
graphics based browsers; as HTML splinters, so too will HTML pages.  It's 
completely inevitable with the current evolution (or mutation, depending 
on your point of view) of the standard.

Concede: HTML is as big a failure as it is a success.  I hardly think 
that pages like

<UL>
<LI>Click *here* if you're using Mozilla!
<LI>Click *here* if you're using Xmosaic!
<LI>Click *here* if you're using Lynx!
[etc...]
</UL>

were intended when we started playing this logical markup game.  (Use of 
click *here* intentional, yes, I hate it, this is called point belaboring.)

> Seems to me this is another example of why we need stylesheets - if
> providers are to the point of customising the output for your browser,
> then there's obviously a need for control over presentation.

I think that's been obvious since day 1.5.  The question of deployment is 
a stickier business.

> I'm dreading the day where pages are just one large imagemap gif of the
> page, exactly as the provider wants it to look.

No no, one large imagemap jpeg.  Scarcity of resources and all that...

 -Paul Phillips

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