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Re: java-interest-digest V1 #138
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Weiler)
Wed Aug 30 19:16:26 1995
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:08:10 -0700
From: weilerj@std.teradyne.com (Jason Weiler)
To: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu
Cc: java-interest@java.sun.com
>
> Someone else in another message about Netscape:
>
> > part is that they are single handedly defining the HTML standard.
> > Last I checked HTML 3.0 didn't exist outside of the minds of
> > Net(e)scapers.
>
> A *lot* of PC browsers support HTML3, including Mosaic (well...) and
> Microsoft's Internet Explorer.
Yes, but why do they support a non-standard? Simple...they have to
in order to compete with Netscape or they will sink.
> what exactly would unseating Netscape
> actually accomplish?
Nothing...and due to it's publicity to the general public, I have doubts
as to weather they CAN be uinseted in a short span of time.
> What's in it for Java?
Publicity_Publicity_Publicity! Java will find it's home on the net. By
putting out a solid product and spreading the word about it, Java could
become known to many people. By putting out a good web product, Java
could explode in popularity. People have actually started to hock "the
Web" more often than they do "the Internet". EVERYTHING is on this
web. All online services seem to have bought/developed some manner of
web-browsing technology. There are (far too) many books on the web
at your local Walden's. In short, the future of advertising is on
web...no doubt.
> What is the _goal_?
<See above>
> If you think the Web is going to have to undergo some major changes before
> things settle down (HTML3 is just a start), and I do, the "browser wars"
> are a pointless venue.
I don't think "Browser Wars" would be a good thing, but while all
this excitement surrounds the Web, it's a golden opportunity to make some
noise.
> If Java leaves the web and establishes itself as
> a real programming language, it will be trivial to take the web back.
> The opposite approach, being established on the web, well, just isn't going
> to help that much in establishing Java as a real programming language.
If Java leaves the web now. I bet it'll die quickly. It's initial draw
will be gone, and it'll only have a handful of people who care enough
to try it out. The web is not unlike life-support for Java in my view.
The language needs to build it's strength up. Jeez people...it's only
on two platforms and still in alpha on both. It's hardly ready to stand
on its own!! Java will establish itself if it was meant to be. They
could be a better language that comes out tomorrow...we just don't know.
> (Real == "accepted", vs "experimental" == "toy")
In a perfect world, I couldn't agree with you more. But I ran out of
shampoo this morning and had to use bar soap...the world is far from
perfect. :-)
-Jason
<weilerj@std.teradyne.com>
I suppose I should say that I don't speak
for Teradyne, and they don't speak for me.
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