[1185] in java-interest
Re: The future of Java
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Olson)
Fri Aug 25 15:28:23 1995
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:35:59 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jeffrey Olson <jeffrey@InternetOne.COM>
To: John Barton <jjb@watson.ibm.com>
cc: "Glen C. Perkins" <Glen.Perkins@NativeGuide.com>,
java-interest@java.sun.com
In-Reply-To: <9508251208.AA33612@jjb.watson.ibm.com>
On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, John Barton wrote:
>
>
> Glen writes:
> [moaning deleted]
>
> >I guess one thing that makes me nervous is that I don't understand how Sun
> >intends to make money from Java. If they don't know either, then it's
> >unlikely that they will go to a lot of effort to push it which will
> >handicap it in the market. I can imagine that Microsoft could well be
> >planning a combo of a netscape-killer browser built right into every copy
> >of Windows along with a special java-killer version of Visual Basic for web
> >applets. The perfect integration of Windows, Microsoft Office, and the web.
> >If Sun is thinking of Java as a "science project", I'm afraid Microsoft
> >will clean their clock with a version of VB that is both vastly inferior to
> >Java and vastly better marketed.
>
> Glen, why do you say "I can imagine that Microsoft could well" be
> "planning" a java-killer? I thought that Blackbird, Microsoft's downloadable
> OLE control scheme that is used on Microsoft Network, already does all of
> the things you mentioned, most especially "perfect integration of Windows,
> Microsoft Office, and the web". The OLE controls are harder to write than
> java applets, but content providers could care less. They have all the
> controls the world ever needs: connections to Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel,
> and so on. I wonder if the java clock is already spiffy-clean.
>
> John.
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To Barton et al,
Who cares if Blackbird integrates all of the crappy monolithic
software from Microsoft --integrates those clunky "pigs of code" to MSN
and Gate's "big-brother" snooper services. Maybe the legions of dolts who
have blindly supported DOS and the various win-doze mutations will get
out onto the net and see that there is a vibrant culture of computer
users, makers, programmers..etc. that have rejected their backwards-
compatable shackles long ago. True competition creates superior products,
ones that people will support whole-heartedly. A Microsoft world would
be very small and soft indeed. Rather, with foundations like java and
open-doc... the future will see people creating and sharing tools of
their own creation - on a global-web "non-platform" that is more like the
basis of a language - not a corporate-owned product/prison. The need for
a "platform" is becoming extinct.. only open protocols, languages and
minds are required. The continuing usage of closed languages like
visual basic by a few unimaginative serfs is a waste of time for everyone.
Jeffrey
I own/access several clocks, clockfaces and time-zones
(Irix/open,X-win/SunOS4.x/Solaris2.x/Nextstep/MacOS)
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