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Minutes of Chapter Meeting 11/18/98
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Spitznagel)
Sat Nov 21 08:55:43 1998
From: Michael Spitznagel <aquinas@MIT.EDU>
To: apo-minutes@MIT.EDU
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:55:29 EST
Minutes of Chapter Meeting, Nov. 18, 1998
Start: 7:34 pm; End: 9:19 pm
Present: Ann-Marie, Oscar, Emily, Brian, Brad, Mel, Jamie, Ari, Yale,
Falling, Daniel, Laura, Sam, Susama, Cathy, Ellen, Sara Barron,
Grant.
Preface
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President (Ann-Marie): I am here thanks to the miracle of Glaxo
Welcome Inc. I want this meeting to go quickly, so please pay
attention at all times.
Check In
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Nominations
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President Michael, Cathy, Melissa, Orod, pipa, Grant
SVP Jamie, Ann-Marie, pipa
MVP Laura, Jamie, Ann-Marie, pipa
AVP Daniel, Falling, Sara, pipa
Treasurer Sam, Orod, pipa
Fellowship Emily, Falling, Melissa, Laura, Susama, Ann-Marie, pipa
ApocEd Sam, Falling, pipa
UMOC
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UMOC (Ari): The UMOC report is pretty much covered in the Apoc
article. I'll push additional concerns to ServComm.
CPPC
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President (Ann-Marie): There was very poor turnout at CPPC. Only
Ellen, Michael, and Cathy showed up. So, we went to Maine. I got a
crossbow and a recurve bow. However, we did discuss the chapter
program, and I'll have a report for the next Apoc.
I strongly suggest that the chapter hold another CPPC next term, and
that people show up for it. CPPC is the ideal time to bring up the
things that have been bugging you. It is a forum for ideas, so that
we needn't all grouse in the corner by ourselves. Although it was
poorly attended this term, it can still be a useful instrument for the
future.
Emily: I think a CPPC in this IAP would be a good idea, since many
brothers will be at MIT in January.
Ann-Marie: Holding CPPC next term is not my problem, but have I got
things to say at it!
Elevation Voting Policy Discussion
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[Warning: I did not feel at liberty to summarize the following
discussion, so I quoted as much as possible; however, don't
assume that my recording is close to verbatim, or even
complete. Also, it's really long, so you may just want
to skip to the end.]
Susama: Over PTRM there were several people who wanted to vote but
could not. I would like the voting policy to be overturned.
Oscar: Point of order: All active, associate, and advisory members
must be notified one week in advance before the procedure can be
changed.
Susama: Then what can I do to vote?
Ari: (reads Article I, Section 2 of current bylaws.)
Cathy: So if a petition is presented, a week of notice would still be
required.
Susama: I at least want it changed before next PTRM.
Cathy: Is it possible to suspend that portion of the bylaws?
Ann-Marie: We can put a man on the moon... Anything is possible. But
this would take quite a bit of torquing.
Oscar: The chair interprets the bylaws. The chapter can overturn the
chair's interpretation. 'Active' is defined by having fulfilled all
obligations to the treasurer.
Ari: This is a logical flaw. We should not have to change the bylaws
in order to change something easier.
Ann-Marie: Does the MVP interpret active membership?
Brian: The MVP interprets requirements for the voting policy, not activity.
Ann-Marie: Then it is the MVP's decision to waive certain features of
the voting policy under extenuating circumstances.
Emily: Would this require reholding PTRM?
Ellen: If you redo the voting policy, then what you do next depends on
the changes. But even though we always want everyone to be able to
participate, sometimes you have to say no based on the rules that you
have set up. You can only contort so much.
Cathy: MS: That the meeting recess for five minutes.
Emily: Can we do a straw poll first?
Ann-Marie: It is not clear what we would do a straw poll on.
Meeting recesses for ten minutes with unanimous consent.
Meeting returns to order
Ann-Marie: (Reading from the voting policy passed on 9 Sep 98):
Only brothers who are active brothers (according to the Treasurer) as
of five weeks before the Pledge Term Review Meeting and who have
indicated that they will have fulfilled the Brotherhood Expectations
that term by signing a copy of said Expectations at the Pledge Term
Review Meeting may vote on pledges. These brothers will receive
ballots for the pledges for whom they feel qualified to vote. If any
of these brothers refuses a ballot, his vote shall be counted as an
abstention.
Brothers who have not submitted a signed copy of the Brotherhood
Expectations may request a ballot for a particular pledge or pledges
from the MVP. Ballots will be granted at the MVP's discretion if
there are extenuating circumstances. In this case, the above rule of
ballot abstentions shall not apply.
Ann-Marie: (to Susama) Would you like to pose a question for a straw poll?
Susama: The person who brought it up should do that.
Ann-Marie: It is your issue.
Susama: I brought this up because there are six brothers voting on one
pledge, and five on the rest. I would have paid dues if I could
before PTRM. I did all that I could to make myself active at that
point.
Ann-Marie: (to OROD) Did you refuse late payment of dues?
Oscar: I cannot refuse them, and did not refuse them.
Susama: I was given the impression at PTRM that I could not pay dues.
Ann-Marie: Would you have paid dues if you'd known the policy?
Susama: Yes, if I'd thought it would make any difference.
Ann-Marie: Any straw poll proposals?
Emily: I no longer want a straw poll, since we cannot change anything here.
Susama: I do not think this should be straw polled.
Ann-Marie: At this point, since initiation is in less than one week,
the point is moot.
Cathy: MSP (n-0-0): to ditch this and move on, since there is nothing
we can do about it.
New Business
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Oscar: MSP (n-0-0): To add $75 to the Apoc budget, because they've
actually been putting out Apocs.
Emily: yeah!
Oscar: Woohoo!
Officer Reports
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SVP (Cathy): CRISIS is now; talk to Yale or Jen Clay. There are two
projects later. That's it.
MVP (Brian): I've already informed everyone of everything that they
need to be informed about, so I have nothing to report.
AVP (Michael): I'm taking minutes, and am nearly done typing. Let me
know if you need a room for anything.
Treasurer (Oscar): I've been working hard to close the books for
October. Hopefully I will finish updating the debt list and email
notices after Thanksgiving.
APOcEd (Emily): People requested more information about the various
offices before running. I've sent out email about this and I will
again. I'll get out another issue Friday. Get out campaign articles
for the next issues.
Ann-Marie: All offices are easy and really fun...
Cathy: ...and the chapter feeds you cake, your favorite kind.
FC (Brad): SFF is Saturday, immediately following unspecified events.
Installation meeting and banquet is later. Since SFF is Saturday, I
have no dinner trip scheduled for Friday, and next week is
Thanksgiving, so we'll all go to Ann-Marie's house and eat.
Ann-Marie: My home is not "APO in Somerville," and my mother's going
to be there. She's worse than me!
Melissa: You can eat at my house.
FC (Brad): I'd like to resume dinner trips on December 4th, perhaps
followed by a movie night.
Ann-Marie: No, come to my play instead!
FC (Brad): So you want to host Thanksgiving?
Ann-Marie: Sure. There'll be glass in the turkey, but...
FC (Brad): So on Friday the 4th, dinner trip and possibly Ann-Marie's play.
ASC (Ari): I have hair.
Emily: I don't have hair.
ASC (Ari): Lego is long dead. I've written a three-page opera on
cleaning the office, or maybe that would just be nothing to report.
PubDir (Katie): not present
Historian (Sara): not present
Announcements
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Cathy: If you want to do CRISIS, talk to Yale now.
Yale: CRISIS is 2-6 pm on Sunday. It is a world simulation for 24-60
high school students. It requires reliable support staff. (Four
reliable supporters volunteer.)
Jamie: I'm planning an informal, unofficial ski trip on the weekend of
the 8th of January. Keep it open.
Oscar: If you're holding onto RFPs, please get them to me soon.
Susama: SFF is coming up this Saturday. Dinner is at 7:30, and will
be turkey with trimmings. I'll be shopping on Thursday. SFF will be
in the Compton Room (26-110). Initiation may be there as well. I
also need DJs and a sound system.
Yale: My leadership seminar will be 2-4 pm Saturday, at a place not
yet determined.
Points
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Emily: Did anyone find a Java book in the office?
Cathy: No, but I left one there.
Grant: The ham test was tonight. You should all have taken it.
Melissa: Stretching is nice.
Oscar: Password sniffers suck. Change your password. Melissa's cat
is cool. I didn't do it.
Ann-Marie: I'm in the play, and in it I keep stripping down to less
and less clothing. Now I'll be wearing something from Victoria's
Secret.
Laura: When is this?
Ann-Marie: It's "What the Butler Saw." I'm working on getting more
cuts in my abs and thighs. It's a farce, and a lot of fun. It runs
on December 3rd, 4th, and 5th in Kresge Little. People dress in each
other's clothes and get shot. Also, it's free.
Oscar: I'll be good. I'm not going to say anything.
Ellen: It's quite clear that there are some real issues with the
membership program and policies and participation. The time to
address these is between now and the next semester. Once you're in
the middle of the term, you cannot change course. Six people voting
on pledges just sucks.
(Meeting ends at 9:19... well, so much for Dawson.)
