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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Bottle Opening and Drinking, al-Amarjan Style

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lieven)
Wed Aug 20 10:40:50 2014

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:40:34 +0200
From: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
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Am 20.08.2014 15:55, schrieb Steven Boozer:
>>From my notes...
>
> MO to 'ISqu' (1/02/2012):  hole (like a hole in the ground) is {QemjIq}. This can also be used for the hollow in a tree. {qung}, the word for "hole in a musical instrument", can't be used for a hole in the ground, but it could be used for a bullet hole or a hole in a shirt (including buttonholes, moth holes, accidental rips, etc.) or a hole in the roof. You can fill ({teb}) a {QemjIq}, but not a {qung}.
>
> According to HQ 10.2:8, {qung} is to change the pitch in a wind instrument, apparently not a soundhole for stringed instruments.
>
> Based on this, I would say that the opening of a bottle (or jug) is the general {QemjIq}.  {qung} seems to be restricted to the very specialized holes in wind instruments.

Maybe you should adapt these notes. You cannot say "{qung} seems to be 
restricted to the very specialized holes"

after reading Okrand's explanation:

"{qung} [...] could be used for a bullet hole or a hole in a shirt 
(including buttonholes, moth holes, accidental rips, etc.) or a hole in 
the roof."


-- 
Lieven L. Litaer
aka Quvar valer 'utlh
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