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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Parts 3 & 4 of the untitled story

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Mon Jul 7 14:52:38 2014

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:52:24 +0200
From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Qov:
> qej qabDaj.

qech DaDelbogh vIyaj. ghaytan yaj tlhIngan je. 'ach chaq qejlaHbe' qab,
qejlaH nuv neH.

> tera'Daq pagh rurqu'.

pagh rurlaH'a' Doch? chaq vay''e' rurbogh Doch tu'lu'be' neH. "It's like
nothing on Earth" feels to me a bit like an Englishism directly translated
into Klingon. Does it feel that way to anyone else?

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De'vID
On 7 Jul 2014 00:46, "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca> wrote:

> This continues the story I wrote to review the beginner level vocabulary.
> It contains only grammar and vocabulary required for the level one test,
> which excludes all type-7 suffixes, making it a little choppy, but I hope
> still grammatical. An English translation follows each of the two parts. I
> will recommend that beginners translate it both ways, to work on both
> familairity with and recall of the vocabulary and grammar.
>
> Someone complained last time about the font, so I have stripped formatting.
>
> 3. ghogh vIQoy.
> paw jupwI', loDnI'wI' joq.
> pa' 'el ghom.
> SaH jupwI', loDnI'wI' je 'ej tlhej be'nI'wI'.
> quSqoq legh be'nI'wI'.
> qej qabDaj.
> jatlh be'nI', <qatlh Dochvetlh'e' Daghaj?>
> jIjatlh, <vItI'laH. Doj. DatemlaHbe'.>
> jatlh be'nI', <wejpuH, jIQochbej! 'oHmo' bIchepbe'bej.
> QIv 'ej QIp. vImuS.>
> jIjatlh, <be'nI'wI',  bImejnIS. Qu'vam vIbuSnIS.>
> jatlh be'nI', <qetlh Qu'lIj.>
> tlheD ghaH.
>
> 3. translated
> I hear a voice.
> My friend and/or my brother arrives.
> The group enters the room.
> My friend and my brother are present, and my sister is with them.
> My sister sees the purported chair.
> Her face is mean.
> My sister says, Why do you have *that thing*?
> I say, I can repair it. It's impressive. You cannot deny it.
> My sister says, Charming. I definitely disagree. You will certainly not
> prosper because of it.
> It's inferior and stupid. I hate it.
> I say, my sister, you need to leave. I need to focus on this task.
> The sister says, Your task is dull.
> She leaves.
>
> 4.
> quSqoq vIDelnIS.
> tera'Daq pagh rurqu'.
> Sar. Doq 'ej SuD.
> qIj bIng.
> ngo' 'a Dajqu'.
> jatlh loDnI', <mayajbe'. bIQIjnIS.>
> jIjatlh, <pegh 'oH.>
> jatlh loDnI'wI', <jItamchu'.  jI'Ip. chovoqlaHba'.>
> jatlh jup, <vIpegh. 'IpwIj DawuvlaH. jIngoy'.>
> jIQub.
> jIjatlh, <Duj 'oHlaw'. mulengmoHlaH.>
> Hagh loDnI'wI'.
> jatlh, <QaQ lutvetlh.>
>
> 4.translated
> I need to describe the so-called chair.
> It precisely resembles nothing on Earth.
> It is varied. It's red/orange and blue/green/yellow.
> The area underneath is black.
> It is old, but very interesting.
> Brother says, We don't understand. You need to explain.
> I say, It's a secret.
> My brother says, I will be completely silent. I swear. You can obviously
> trust me.
> The friend says, I will keep it secret. You can rely on my oath. I am
> responsible.
> I think.
> I say, I think it's a vessel. It can cause me to travel.
> My brother laughs.
> He says, That story is good.
> I say, It's not funny. I tell the truth.
> My friend says, We don't need to debate. I believe you.
> I say, You are a true friend.
> My brother turns serious.
> He says, I'm willing to listen, but it's very small. How does it work?
> I say, I will show it.
> I sit down in the "chair."
> My body presses down.
> Everyone waits.
> A minute occurs.
> Nothing happens.
> I become sad.
>
> Please call out anything you would consider questionable usage. I don't
> want
> to be granted artistic licence here.
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Qov:<br>
&gt; qej qabDaj.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">qech DaDelbogh vIyaj. ghaytan yaj tlhIngan je. &#39;ach chaq=
 qejlaHbe&#39; qab, qejlaH nuv neH.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">&gt; tera&#39;Daq pagh rurqu&#39;.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">pagh rurlaH&#39;a&#39; Doch? chaq vay&#39;&#39;e&#39; rurbog=
h Doch tu&#39;lu&#39;be&#39; neH. &quot;It&#39;s like nothing on Earth&quot=
; feels to me a bit like an Englishism directly translated into Klingon. Do=
es it feel that way to anyone else?</p>

<p dir=3D"ltr">--<br>
De&#39;vID</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 7 Jul 2014 00:46, &quot;Robyn Stewart&quot; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
This continues the story I wrote to review the beginner level vocabulary.<b=
r>
It contains only grammar and vocabulary required for the level one test,<br=
>
which excludes all type-7 suffixes, making it a little choppy, but I hope<b=
r>
still grammatical. An English translation follows each of the two parts. I<=
br>
will recommend that beginners translate it both ways, to work on both<br>
familairity with and recall of the vocabulary and grammar.<br>
<br>
Someone complained last time about the font, so I have stripped formatting.=
<br>
<br>
3. ghogh vIQoy.<br>
paw jupwI&#39;, loDnI&#39;wI&#39; joq.<br>
pa&#39; &#39;el ghom.<br>
SaH jupwI&#39;, loDnI&#39;wI&#39; je &#39;ej tlhej be&#39;nI&#39;wI&#39;.<b=
r>
quSqoq legh be&#39;nI&#39;wI&#39;.<br>
qej qabDaj.<br>
jatlh be&#39;nI&#39;, &lt;qatlh Dochvetlh&#39;e&#39; Daghaj?&gt;<br>
jIjatlh, &lt;vItI&#39;laH. Doj. DatemlaHbe&#39;.&gt;<br>
jatlh be&#39;nI&#39;, &lt;wejpuH, jIQochbej! &#39;oHmo&#39; bIchepbe&#39;be=
j.<br>
QIv &#39;ej QIp. vImuS.&gt;<br>
jIjatlh, &lt;be&#39;nI&#39;wI&#39;, =C2=A0bImejnIS. Qu&#39;vam vIbuSnIS.&gt=
;<br>
jatlh be&#39;nI&#39;, &lt;qetlh Qu&#39;lIj.&gt;<br>
tlheD ghaH.<br>
<br>
3. translated<br>
I hear a voice.<br>
My friend and/or my brother arrives.<br>
The group enters the room.<br>
My friend and my brother are present, and my sister is with them.<br>
My sister sees the purported chair.<br>
Her face is mean.<br>
My sister says, Why do you have *that thing*?<br>
I say, I can repair it. It&#39;s impressive. You cannot deny it.<br>
My sister says, Charming. I definitely disagree. You will certainly not<br>
prosper because of it.<br>
It&#39;s inferior and stupid. I hate it.<br>
I say, my sister, you need to leave. I need to focus on this task.<br>
The sister says, Your task is dull.<br>
She leaves.<br>
<br>
4.<br>
quSqoq vIDelnIS.<br>
tera&#39;Daq pagh rurqu&#39;.<br>
Sar. Doq &#39;ej SuD.<br>
qIj bIng.<br>
ngo&#39; &#39;a Dajqu&#39;.<br>
jatlh loDnI&#39;, &lt;mayajbe&#39;. bIQIjnIS.&gt;<br>
jIjatlh, &lt;pegh &#39;oH.&gt;<br>
jatlh loDnI&#39;wI&#39;, &lt;jItamchu&#39;. =C2=A0jI&#39;Ip. chovoqlaHba&#3=
9;.&gt;<br>
jatlh jup, &lt;vIpegh. &#39;IpwIj DawuvlaH. jIngoy&#39;.&gt;<br>
jIQub.<br>
jIjatlh, &lt;Duj &#39;oHlaw&#39;. mulengmoHlaH.&gt;<br>
Hagh loDnI&#39;wI&#39;.<br>
jatlh, &lt;QaQ lutvetlh.&gt;<br>
<br>
4.translated<br>
I need to describe the so-called chair.<br>
It precisely resembles nothing on Earth.<br>
It is varied. It&#39;s red/orange and blue/green/yellow.<br>
The area underneath is black.<br>
It is old, but very interesting.<br>
Brother says, We don&#39;t understand. You need to explain.<br>
I say, It&#39;s a secret.<br>
My brother says, I will be completely silent. I swear. You can obviously<br=
>
trust me.<br>
The friend says, I will keep it secret. You can rely on my oath. I am<br>
responsible.<br>
I think.<br>
I say, I think it&#39;s a vessel. It can cause me to travel.<br>
My brother laughs.<br>
He says, That story is good.<br>
I say, It&#39;s not funny. I tell the truth.<br>
My friend says, We don&#39;t need to debate. I believe you.<br>
I say, You are a true friend.<br>
My brother turns serious.<br>
He says, I&#39;m willing to listen, but it&#39;s very small. How does it wo=
rk?<br>
I say, I will show it.<br>
I sit down in the &quot;chair.&quot;<br>
My body presses down.<br>
Everyone waits.<br>
A minute occurs.<br>
Nothing happens.<br>
I become sad.<br>
<br>
Please call out anything you would consider questionable usage. I don&#39;t=
 want<br>
to be granted artistic licence here.<br>
<br>
<br>
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