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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon musical scale
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Jun 11 11:40:33 2014
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:40:14 +0000
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There was an article about this in the KLI Wiki, but it's no longer accessi=
ble. Cf.
http://www.kli.org/wiki/index.php?nonatonic%20scale
However, trying to find another copy on the web, I came across:
http://silpayamanant.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/klingon-music-theory-part-1-i=
ntro/
and
http://www.klingonmusic.net/2012/04/01/klingon-music-theory-introduction-pa=
rt-1/
http://www.klingonmusic.net/2012/04/01/klingon-music-theory-introduction-pa=
rt-2/
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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
From: Brad Wilson [mailto:bmacliam@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:02 PM
To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon musical scale
Prompted by the recent KWOD {'egh}, I started writing a note about the Klin=
gon "nonatonic" scale, but it quickly turned into a long treatise on the ap=
plication of multi-centered musical tunings and applications to musical pro=
duction. So, I decided to not post it ... but anyone that has an interest i=
n a rather technical examination of the Klingon musical scale, please let m=
e know, and I'll send you a copy.
The gist of the note was a comment on the fact that the "nonatonic" scale h=
as only 8 intervals. We number the tones in our Terran scales without count=
ing the last tone, which is a repeat of the starting tone, only one octave =
higher or lower. The 9 tones of the Klingon scale are named in similar fash=
ion - yu / bIm / 'egh / loS / vagh / jav / Soch / chorgh / yu - which leads=
me to conclude that MO didn't understand the details of musical notation w=
hen he named this a "nonatonic" scale, or perhaps there is a "hidden" note =
that has not been revealed to us yet. Of course, the Klingon fashion may be=
to count the ending tone, and what a Klingon would call a nonatonic scale,=
a Terran musician would call an octatonic scale.
At any rate, this thing I've written is pretty technical, going into the va=
rious frequency & string lengths required to obtain a possible 9-note scale=
.
If you'd like a copy, let me know.
Brad Wilson, aka gheyIl
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There was an article about =
this in the KLI Wiki, but it’s no longer accessible. Cf.
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.kli.org/wiki/index.php?nonatonic%20scale">http://www.=
kli.org/wiki/index.php?nonatonic%20scale</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">However, trying to find ano=
ther copy on the web, I came across:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://silpayama=
nant.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/klingon-music-theory-part-1-intro/">http://si=
lpayamanant.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/klingon-music-theory-part-1-intro/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://www.kling=
onmusic.net/2012/04/01/klingon-music-theory-introduction-part-1/">http://ww=
w.klingonmusic.net/2012/04/01/klingon-music-theory-introduction-part-1/</a>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://www.kling=
onmusic.net/2012/04/01/klingon-music-theory-introduction-part-2/">http://ww=
w.klingonmusic.net/2012/04/01/klingon-music-theory-introduction-part-2/</a>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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t;sans-serif";color:black">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Ca'Non Master of the Klingo=
ns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Brad Wil=
son [mailto:bmacliam@aol.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon musical scale<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:black">Prompted by the recent KWOD {=
'egh}, I started writing a note about the Klingon "nonatonic" sca=
le, but it quickly turned into a long treatise on the application
of multi-centered musical tunings and applications to musical production. =
So, I decided to not post it ... but anyone that has an interest in a rathe=
r technical examination of the Klingon musical scale, please let me know, a=
nd I'll send you a copy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:black">The gist of the note was a co=
mment on the fact that the "nonatonic" scale has only 8 intervals=
. We number the tones in our Terran scales without counting the last
tone, which is a repeat of the starting tone, only one octave higher or lo=
wer. The 9 tones of the Klingon scale are named in similar fashion - <=
/span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",&qu=
ot;sans-serif";color:black">yu / bIm / 'egh / loS / vagh
/ jav / Soch / chorgh / yu</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> - which lead=
s me to conclude that MO didn't understand the details of musical notation =
when he named this a "nonatonic" scale, or perhaps there is
a "hidden" note that has not been revealed to us yet. Of course,=
the Klingon fashion may be to count the ending tone, and what a Klingon wo=
uld call a nonatonic scale, a Terran musician would call an octatonic scale=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:black">At any rate, this thing I've =
written is pretty technical, going into the various frequency & string =
lengths required to obtain a possible 9-note scale.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:black">If you'd like a copy, let me =
know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:black">Brad Wilson, aka gheyIl<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
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