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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: poS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gaerfindel)
Mon Jun 9 23:23:18 2014

Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 23:23:00 -0400
From: Gaerfindel <gaerfindel@hotmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
In-Reply-To: <000001cf844b$312cffc0$9386ff40$@flyingstart.ca>
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On 6/9/2014 9:27 PM, Robyn Stewart wrote:


*vIgh**Itlhpu' quljIb:*
So then the rewrite would be: *jagh' chaH cha' vaj'e', 'ach poS DeSDu' 
'uchchuq, loDnI' rur. Suvba'chugh*
*DaqtaghmeychajvaD ratlh ghopDu' neH.*

*jang <<Robyn Stewart>>:*
*jagh' -> jagh* (new typos for old) *p**oS DeSDu' 'uchchuq -> 'uchchuq 
poS DeSDu'* - Remember OVS order.
*
vI'jang:*
More importantly, using *-chuq* prevents the use of an object.
/"This suffix is used only with plural subjects...The prefix set 
indicating 'no object' is also used when this suffix is used,"/ (TKD 36)
*
ghItlh <<Robyn>>*
  I think you meant to include*nIH* in there somewhere.
*
vIjang:*
Originally I did, but Qov suggested *ratlh* and upon looking it up, I 
agreed.
*
ghItlh <<Robyn>>:*
Some people would get twitchy over your using a comma as a sentence 
conjunction. Maybe *SuvchoHchugh* makes more sense than *Suvba'chugh*, 
but it's your story.
*
vIjang:**
*I used {-ba} because I wanted to convey the *slight* uncertainty of a 
fight.  Obviously as enemies there's a good chance they may, but if 
*...'uchchuq poS DeSDu', loDnI' rur* /"They grasp left arms as 
brothers,"/ then there may not.  The audience should know that.


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/9/2014 9:27 PM, Robyn Stewart
      wrote:<font face="Comic Sans MS"><br>
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      <font face="Comic Sans MS"><b>vIgh</b><b>Itlhpu' quljIb:</b></font><br>
      <font face="Comic Sans MS">So then the rewrite would be: <b>jagh'
          chaH cha' vaj'e', 'ach poS DeSDu' 'uchchuq, loDnI' rur.
          Suvba'chugh</b></font><br>
      <font face="Comic Sans MS"><b>DaqtaghmeychajvaD ratlh ghopDu' neH.</b><br>
        <br>
      </font><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b>jang &lt;&lt;Robyn
          Stewart&gt;&gt;:</b></font></div>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS"><b>jagh' -&gt; jagh</b> (new typos for
      old)
      <b>p</b><b>oS DeSDu' 'uchchuq -&gt; 'uchchuq poS DeSDu'</b> -
      Remember OVS order.</font><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><br>
        vI'jang:</b></font><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS">More importantly, using <b>-chuq</b>
      prevents the use of an object.</font><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS"><i>"This suffix is used only with plural
        subjects...The prefix set indicating 'no object' is also used
        when this suffix is used,"</i> (TKD 36)</font><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><br>
        ghItlh &lt;&lt;Robyn&gt;&gt;</b></font><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS">&nbsp;I think you meant to include<b> nIH</b>
      in there somewhere.</font><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><br>
        vIjang:</b></font><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS">Originally I did, but Qov suggested <b>ratlh</b>
      and upon looking it up, I agreed.</font><br>
    <b><font face="Comic Sans MS"><br>
        ghItlh &lt;&lt;Robyn&gt;&gt;:</font></b><br>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS">Some people would get twitchy over your
      using a comma as a sentence
      conjunction.
      Maybe <b>SuvchoHchugh</b> makes more sense than <b>Suvba'chugh</b>,
      but it's your story.</font><br>
    <b><font face="Comic Sans MS"><br>
        vIjang:</font></b><b><br>
    </b><font face="Comic Sans MS">I used {-ba} because I wanted to
      convey the *slight* uncertainty of a fight.&nbsp; Obviously as enemies
      there's a good chance they may, but if <b>...'uchchuq poS DeSDu',
        loDnI' rur</b>&nbsp; <i>"They grasp left arms as brothers,"</i> then
      there may not.&nbsp; The audience should know that.</font><br>
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