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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Greetings from Maltz
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ruben Molina)
Wed Nov 13 23:15:36 2013
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:15:19 +0100
From: Ruben Molina <rmolina@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David Holt <kenjutsuka@live.com> wrote:
>
> > From: robyn@flyingstart.ca
> > I haven't worked with Spanish for too long to remember. Is Hay used for
both
> > singular and plural and if so is there a technically more correct way
to say
> > it?
>
> "Hay" is used for both plural and singular, but is a special conjugation.
It is not a normal conjugation of the verb "haber" and for other uses of
that verb it is normally conjugated as "ha" in the third person singular
present and "han" in the third person plural present. However, when using
other tenses, the regular third person singular of that conjugation is used
for both the singular and the plural ("Habr=C3=A1 problemas." "There will b=
e
problems.") There is no more formal or correct way to say it, though in
some areas the plural form ("Habr=C3=A1n problemas.") is also considered
acceptable.
>
Actually, there is a "correct" way to say it. After all, there is an
institution
responsible for regulating the Spanish language.
The *impersonal* form of "haber" is: [verb conjugated by tense (singular
number, indicative case)] + [noun] (singular or plural number, accusative
case)]. And the conjugations by tense are: "hay" (present tense), "hab=C3=
=ADa"
(imperfect past tense), "habr=C3=A1" (future tense), "hubo" (perfect past
tense). [cfr. Diccionario Panhisp=C3=A1nico de Dudas (Panhispanic Dictiona=
ry of
Doubts), pp. 330-331]
ruben
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David Holt <<a href=
=3D"mailto:kenjutsuka@live.com">kenjutsuka@live.com</a>> wrote:<br>><=
br>> > From: <a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca">robyn@flyingstar=
t.ca</a><br>
> > I haven't worked with Spanish for too long to remember. Is Ha=
y used for both<br>> > singular and plural and if so is there a techn=
ically more correct way to say<br>> > it?<br>><br>> "Hay&q=
uot; is used for both plural and singular, but is a special conjugation. It=
is not a normal conjugation of the verb "haber" and for other us=
es of that verb it is normally conjugated as "ha" in the third pe=
rson singular present and "han" in the third person plural presen=
t. =C2=A0However, when using other tenses, the regular third person singula=
r of that conjugation is used for both the singular and the plural ("H=
abr=C3=A1 problemas." "There will be problems.") =C2=A0There=
is no more formal or correct way to say it, though in some areas the plura=
l form ("Habr=C3=A1n problemas.") is also considered acceptable.<=
br>
><br><br>Actually, there is a "correct" way to say it. =C2=A0A=
fter all, there is an <span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:12.666666984558105px;line-height:19.19791603088379px">instituti=
on responsible for regulating the Spanish language.</span><br>
<br><div>The *impersonal* form of "haber" is: [verb conjugated by=
tense (singular number, indicative case)] =C2=A0+ [noun] (singular or plur=
al number, accusative case)]. And the conjugations by tense are: "hay&=
quot; (present tense), "hab=C3=ADa" (imperfect past tense), "=
;habr=C3=A1" (future tense), "hubo" (perfect past tense). =
=C2=A0[cfr.=C2=A0Diccionario Panhisp=C3=A1nico de Dudas (Panhispanic Dictio=
nary of Doubts), pp. 330-331]</div>
<div><div><br></div><div>ruben</div><div><br></div></div></div>
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