[97537] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] transcript of Star Trek Into Darkness
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bellerophon, modeler)
Sun Nov 10 15:06:12 2013
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmMO8-2F9EdvT=Mq+HEs3MT-+Vjv+vEVyLXr2Uo8fAFmog@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:05:13 -0500
From: "Bellerophon, modeler" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Perhaps it's my ignorance, but most of this is gibberish to me. For
instance, {ghach jIvvo' naH}: /Fruit from is ignorant -ation./
The only complete sentences I can make out are these.
{DaH pIghvamDaq So''eghtaH.} /Now he is hiding (himself) in these ruins./
{qatlh DISaH?} /Why do we care about them?/ (or "why should we...")
{potlhmo' batlh, vIqawba'.} /Because honor is important, obviously we
remember it./ (or him/her/them... the context makes it unclear to me)
There are plenty of words and apparent words I can't find in any reference,
like jIvuylaH: I can {?vuy}. Also {?ve'}
{?yI'} {wID} {peq} {chIw} {?chI} {chuD} {lIb} {bam}, and the closest I can
come to making sense of {vInDa'ma'} is /our cousin-corporal/.
There are also verbs with noun suffixes, {jIvvo'}, {Dojmey} and {vum'e'},
and suffixes unattached to root words, {ghach} and {Hey}.
Is this dialogue as awful a mess as it seems to me, or am I totally missing
something?
~'eD
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:59 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> jIvuylaH. jIve'.
> jIyI'.
> ghach jIvvo' naH. DaH pIghvamDaq So''eghtaH.
> 'ej Dojmey wID - vInDa'ma' peq.
>
> toH, Hey Humanpu'. qatlh DISaH?
>
> potlhmo' batlh, vIqawba'.
> 'ej chIvo' neH chIw vum'e'.
> Qob lIb bam SoH chuDlI' je.
>
> Yes, it's {Hey} not {Hegh}.
> There is no {bo-} on {bam}. Possibly MO wrote {lIbam} by mistake and
> invented {lIb} to cover it.
>
> I will follow with explanation and definitions when i can.
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Perhaps it's my ignorance, but most of this is gibberi=
sh to me. For instance, {ghach jIvvo' naH}: /Fruit from is ignorant -at=
ion./<div><br></div><div>The only complete sentences I can make out are the=
se.<br>
<div>{DaH pIghvamDaq So''eghtaH.} /Now he is hiding (himself) in th=
ese ruins./=C2=A0<div class=3D"gmail_extra">{qatlh DISaH?} /Why do we care =
about them?/ (or "why should we...")<br>{potlhmo' batlh, vIqa=
wba'.} /Because honor is important, obviously we remember it./ (or him/=
her/them... the context makes it unclear to me)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">There are p=
lenty of words and apparent words I can't find in any reference, like j=
IvuylaH: I can {?vuy}. Also {?ve'} {?yI'}=C2=A0{wID}=C2=A0{peq}=C2=
=A0{chIw}=C2=A0{?chI}=C2=A0{chuD}=C2=A0{lIb} {bam}, and the closest I can c=
ome to making sense of {vInDa'ma'} is /our cousin-corporal/.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">There are also verbs with noun suffixes, {jIvvo&=
#39;}, {Dojmey} and {vum'e'}, and suffixes unattached to root words=
, {ghach} and {Hey}.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">
Is this dialogue as awful a mess as it seems to me, or am I totally missing=
something?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">~'eD</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:59 =
AM, De'vID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
jIvuylaH. jIve'.<br>
jIyI'.<br>
ghach jIvvo' naH.=C2=A0DaH pIghvamDaq So''eghtaH.<br>
'ej Dojmey wID - vInDa'ma' peq.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">toH, Hey Humanpu'. qatlh DISaH?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">potlhmo' batlh, vIqawba'.<br>
'ej chIvo' neH chIw vum'e'.<br>
Qob lIb bam SoH chuDlI' je.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Yes, it's {Hey} not {Hegh}.<br>
There is no {bo-} on {bam}. Possibly MO wrote {lIbam} by mistake and invent=
ed {lIb} to cover it.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I will follow with explanation and definitions when i can.</=
p><span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888">
<p dir=3D"ltr">-- <br>
De'vID<br>
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