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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Use of {net}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Tue Oct 15 13:49:31 2013
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
To: "tlhIngan Hol mailing list" <tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org>
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:48:59 -0700
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=C3=98 I wonder. What other uses have you found for net in a sentence?
>
> Would you, for instance, use qatlh DujlIj'e' nIHta' ra'wI' net SIv One =
wonders why the Commander stole your ship
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Only if I was really speaking of a general wondering, not as an oblique =
way of saying that I wondered.
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> or jagh Suvlu'DI' net taj jej lo'nIS;=20
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That=E2=80=99s ungrammatical. If net is the object of lo=E2=80=99nIS =
than taj jej cannot also be there. Change it to jagh =
Suvlu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99 taj jej lo=E2=80=99nISlu=E2=80=99 ... etc. and =
it=E2=80=99s fine.
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=C3=98 Tell me how you have used it, or why you have avoided it.
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You want me to grab all sentences containing net out of a 75,000-word =
novel? I use it when I would use =E2=80=93lu=E2=80=99 except that the =
object of a verb is a sentence. If I ever use <=E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 =
Xlu=E2=80=99> it=E2=80=99s an accident, although there are some such =
=E2=80=9Caccidents=E2=80=9D of canon and some argue that there is a =
distinction.
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- Qov
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Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>I wonder. What =
other uses have you found for <b>net</b> in a sentence?<br></span><span =
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style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'><br></span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#1F497D'>> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Would you, for =
instance, use <b>qatlh DujlIj'e' nIHta' ra'wI' net SIv</b> <i>One =
wonders why the Commander stole</i> your <i>ship</i></span><i><span =
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</i></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><i><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Only if I was really speaking of a general wondering, not as an =
oblique way of saying that I wondered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'><br></span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#1F497D'>> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>or <b>jagh =
Suvlu'DI' net taj jej lo'nIS; </b></span><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
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D'>That=E2=80=99s ungrammatical. If net is the object of lo=E2=80=99nIS =
than taj jej cannot also be there. Change it to jagh =
Suvlu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99 taj jej lo=E2=80=99nISlu=E2=80=99 ... etc. and =
it=E2=80=99s fine.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>=C3=98<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Tell me how you =
have used it, or why you have avoided it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>You want me to grab all sentences containing net out of a 75,000-word =
novel?=C2=A0 I use it when I would use =E2=80=93lu=E2=80=99 except that =
the object of a verb is a sentence. If I ever use =
<=E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 Xlu=E2=80=99> it=E2=80=99s an accident, =
although there are some such =E2=80=9Caccidents=E2=80=9D of canon and =
some argue that there is a distinction.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
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