[97129] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Story - Out of order installments
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bellerophon, modeler)
Fri Sep 6 02:33:32 2013
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:33:10 -0400
From: "Bellerophon, modeler" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Oh, yeah, same target or scattered targets, from KGT.
Might {jIQoch(be')} be uncanonical usage? It takes two (or more) to
(dis)agree. I can't imagine MO would have had a problem with {maQoch 'e'
wIQochbe'} as it translates neatly as "We agree that we disagree."
How does one use {Qoch(be')} to mean to disagree with something rather than
with someone? (Though the {DoS qIp} idiom could be expanded to something
like {?chaq qechvam DaHar 'ach DoS pIm vIqIp} (or {qechvetlh}, to distance
oneself from the idea?) )
~'eD
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Bellerophon, modeler
> <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
> > BTW: Any canon on use of Qoch(be')? As in "I agree with Tim" or "with
> that
> > statement (or plan, idea, etc)."
>
> The canonical way to express (dis)agreement is with the {DoS qIp}
> idioms: {cha' DoS DIqIp}, {wa' DoSmey wIqIp}.
>
> Not strictly canon: but at the 2011 qepHom in Saarbr=C3=BCcken, MO accept=
ed
> loghaD's {maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'} to mean "we agree to disagree".
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Oh, yeah, same target or scattered targets, from KGT.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Might {jIQoch(be')} be uncanonical usage? It =
takes two (or more) to (dis)agree. I can't imagine MO would have had a =
problem with {maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'} as it translates neatly as =
"We agree that we disagree."</div>
<div><br></div><div>How does one use {Qoch(be')} to mean to disagree wi=
th something rather than with someone? (Though the {DoS qIp} idiom could be=
expanded to something like {?chaq qechvam DaHar 'ach DoS pIm vIqIp} (o=
r {qechvetlh}, to distance oneself from the idea?)=C2=A0)</div>
<div><br></div><div>~'eD</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM, De'vID <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Bellerophon=
, modeler<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com">bellerophon.modeler@gm=
ail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> BTW: Any canon on use of Qoch(be')? As in "I agree with Tim&q=
uot; or "with that<br>
> statement (or plan, idea, etc)."<br>
<br>
The canonical way to express (dis)agreement is with the {DoS qIp}<br>
idioms: {cha' DoS DIqIp}, {wa' DoSmey wIqIp}.<br>
<br>
Not strictly canon: but at the 2011 qepHom in Saarbr=C3=BCcken, MO accepted=
<br>
loghaD's {maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'} to mean "we agree to d=
isagree".<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
De'vID<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <b=
r>My modeling blog:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <=
a href=3D"http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/</a><br>My other modeling blog:=C2=A0 <a=
href=3D"http://bellerophon.blog.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://bellerophon=
.blog.com/</a><br>
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