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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Sunlight and Starlight

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Sun Aug 18 12:28:21 2013

From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:28:07 +1000
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ghItlhpu' 'eD=2C jatlh:
> I'm no canon authority=2C but I've noticed other compound words that
> strongly imply additional vocabulary.
> Klingons may not make a fetish of logic=2C but they don't abandon
> it completely like humans.

jang SuStel=2C jatlh:=20
> Languages are usually logical=2C but often the logic of language is not=20
> obvious. The details are usually buried in history.
>=20
> Perhaps there once was a noun *{wov} that meant "light=2C" and that noun=
=20
> formed genitive constructions like *{maS wov}=2C *{jul wov}=2C and *{Hov=
=20
> wov}.

And it doesn't even need to have been a genitive construction. Formally {ma=
S wov} "bright moon" would behave in most ways the same as a noun-noun cons=
truction=2C and we do have a number of other disyllabic nouns that have ari=
sen from noun-adjectival constructs:

tajtIq "a type of knife" < taj tIq
bIQtIq "river" < bIQ tIq
naghboch "gemstone" < nagh boch
naHlet "nut" < naH let
naHjej "thistle" < naH jej
mu'tay' "vocabulary" < mu' tay'
Hovtay' "star system" < Hov tay'
maQmIgh "evil omen" < maQ mIgh

QeS
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=3B I'm no canon authority=2C but I've noticed other compound words that<br=
><div>&gt=3B strongly imply additional vocabulary.<br>&gt=3B Klingons may n=
ot make a fetish of logic=2C but they don't abandon<br>&gt=3B it completely=
 like humans.<br><br>jang SuStel=2C jatlh: <br>&gt=3B Languages are usually=
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details are usually buried in history.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Perhaps there o=
nce was a noun *{wov} that meant "light=2C" and that noun <br>&gt=3B formed=
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=3B wov}.<br><br>And it doesn't even need to have been a genitive construct=
ion. Formally {maS wov} "bright moon" would behave in most ways the same as=
 a noun-noun construction=2C and we do have a number of other disyllabic no=
uns that have arisen from noun-adjectival constructs:<br><br>tajtIq "a type=
 of knife" &lt=3B taj tIq<br>bIQtIq "river" &lt=3B bIQ tIq<br>naghboch "gem=
stone" &lt=3B nagh boch<br>naHlet "nut" &lt=3B naH let<br>naHjej "thistle" =
&lt=3B naH jej<br>mu'tay' "vocabulary" &lt=3B mu' tay'<br>Hovtay' "star sys=
tem" &lt=3B Hov tay'<br>maQmIgh "evil omen" &lt=3B maQ mIgh<br><br>QeS<br><=
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