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[Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: Re: Sunlight and Starlight
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Sun Aug 18 12:21:10 2013
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:20:49 -0400
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
To: Klingon Language Mailing List <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
In-Reply-To: <BD7BA0E3-A1B9-49ED-90B0-FCBE2F588210@flyingstart.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Sunlight and Starlight
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:09:46 -0700
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
To: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
CC: tlhingan-hol@kli.org <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
If wov were established as a noun I'd have no problem with the
extension, but we have no idea what that syllable is doing there, so
while julwov would be universally understood and probably accepted by
many, it's not a safe assumption that it's not bizarre, archaic, or
babyish.
I haven't been able to post since the list came back up, but I've
privately suggested jul tIH and Hov tIH to those interested. Fingers
crossed that this posts. If not, SuStel, would you be so kind as to
forward it?
- Qov
On 2013-08-18, at 8:50, David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 8/18/2013 10:49 AM, Bellerophon, modeler wrote:
>> I'm no canon authority, but I've noticed other compound words that
>> strongly imply additional vocabulary.
>>
>> Klingons may not make a fetish of logic, but they don't abandon
>> it completely like humans.
>
> Languages are usually logical, but often the logic of language is not obvious. The details are usually buried in history.
>
> Perhaps there once was a noun *{wov} that meant "light," and that noun formed genitive constructions like *{maS wov}, *{jul wov}, and *{Hov wov}. For some reason, however, the noun *{wov} disappeared from the language, or became technical jargon. The construct *{maS wov}, however, stuck around, perhaps as part of a saying or a famous line of literature, but since it no longer made sense as a genitive construct, it began to be interpreted as a single word: {maSwov}. If all this were true, it would mean that *{julwov} and *{Hovwov} are NOT words as yet undiscovered by Federation linguists, and it would be wrong to assume their existence.
>
> Etymology!
>
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