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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {-Ha'} with {-Qo'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Sat Jul 6 05:15:07 2013
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 10:14:38 +0100 (BST)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Alex Greene <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>,
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Grammatically, you can get away with this combination of suffixes. -Ha' goe=
s immediately after the verb, which sounds as if that means that it is inje=
cted just before the Type 1 to Type 9 suffixes; and -Qo' goes into the list=
after all other verb suffixes except a Type 9, so it would be injected bet=
ween the Type 8 and Type 9, and it is considered a rover because it is the =
imperative form of -be'.=0A=0AI could see it being used in {HIlobHa'Qo'} /D=
on't you disobey me!/ by an angry parent, or as a warning to someone about =
to do something foolish - {naDev SutlIj yItuQHa'moHQo'!} /Don't get undress=
ed HERE!/=0A=0AI imagine that, for those times when one hasn't the time to =
rephrase something in a positive way - {HIlob!} or {naDev bItuQtaHnIS} - yo=
u can still get away with using -Ha' and -Qo' together.=0A=0A=0A =0A>ghItlh=
pu' De'vID, jatlh:=0A>> I almost said to someone *{qeylIS pong yIlo'Ha'Qo'}=
"Don't misuse Kahless' name".=0A>> But I stopped when I realised that {-Ha=
'} and {-Qo'} can't both be used together.=0A>=0A>> Or can they? What's the=
natural way to express "Don't V" where V is a verb with {-Ha'}?=0A>=0A>{qe=
ylIS pong yIlo'Ha'Qo'} feels like the perfect way to say "don't misuse Kahl=
ess's name".=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Grammatically, you can get a=
way with this combination of suffixes. -Ha' goes immediately after the verb=
, which sounds as if that means that it is injected just before the Type 1 =
to Type 9 suffixes; and -Qo' goes into the list after all other verb suffix=
es except a Type 9, so it would be injected between the Type 8 and Type 9, =
and it is considered a rover because it is the imperative form of -be'.<br>=
<br>I could see it being used in {HIlobHa'Qo'} /Don't you disobey me!/ by a=
n angry parent, or as a warning to someone about to do something foolish - =
{naDev SutlIj yItuQHa'moHQo'!} /Don't get undressed HERE!/<br><br>I imagine=
that, for those times when one hasn't the time to rephrase something in a =
positive way - {HIlob!} or {naDev bItuQtaHnIS} - you can still get away wit=
h using -Ha' and -Qo' together.<br><br><div><blockquote
style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin=
-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new yor=
k, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family: times new rom=
an, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class=3D"y_msg_container=
"><div id=3D"yiv3770237241">=0A=0A<style><!--=0A#yiv3770237241 .yiv37702372=
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div><div dir=3D"ltr">ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:<br>> I almost said to some=
one *{qeylIS pong yIlo'Ha'Qo'} "Don't misuse Kahless' name".<br>> But I =
stopped when I realised that {-Ha'} and {-Qo'} can't both be used together.=
<br><br>> Or can they? What's the natural way to express "Don't V" where=
V is a verb with {-Ha'}?<br><br>{qeylIS pong yIlo'Ha'Qo'} feels like the p=
erfect way to say "don't misuse Kahless's name".<br></div></div></div></div=
> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></div></body></html>
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