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[Tlhingan-hol] -Qo', -neS, -taHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Wed Jun 26 07:47:26 2013
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:46:58 +0100 (BST)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Alex Greene <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>,
Klingon Mailing List <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Reply-To: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
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TKD, 4.3. "Rovers":-=0A=0A"Unlike -be', the position of -Qo' does not chang=
e: itoccurs last, unless followed by a Type 9 suffix."=0A=0A-vIS is a Type =
9 suffix.=0A=0A=0ATKD, 4.2.9. "Type 9: syntactic markers, under -vIS":-=0A=
=0A"This suffix is always used along with the Type 7 suffix -taH continuous=
."=0A=0AThis is interesting ... does this mean that "while she continues to=
refuse to drink the tea" can be parsed as=0A=0A{Dargh tlhutlhtaHQo'vIS}=0A=
=0Aaccordingly?=0A=0AFurther, can anyone think of an instance where -neS ho=
norific has to be used at the same time as the -taH and -vIS suffixes, as i=
n=0A=0A=0A{chaw'taHneSvIS}=0A=0Afor instance?=0A=0AThey look grammatically =
correct, but ... awkward, to me.=0A
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>TKD, 4.3. "Rovers=
":-</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-fa=
mily: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-st=
yle: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fon=
t-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color:=
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>"Unlike -be', the position of -Qo'=
does not change: it occurs last, unless followed by a Type 9 suffix."</spa=
n></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: nor=
mal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transpa=
rent; font-style: normal;"><span>-vIS is a Type 9 suffix.</span></div><div
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new y=
ork,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><s=
pan></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-f=
amily: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-s=
tyle: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px=
; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent=
; font-style: normal;"><span>TKD, 4.2.9. "Type 9: syntactic markers, under =
-vIS":-</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fon=
t-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; fon=
t-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 1=
6px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transpar=
ent; font-style: normal;">"This suffix is always used along with the Type 7=
suffix -taH continuous."</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size=
:
16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transp=
arent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fo=
nt-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color=
: transparent; font-style: normal;">This is interesting ... does this mean =
that "while she continues to refuse to drink the tea" can be parsed as</div=
><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,=
new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><=
br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: g=
aramond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: no=
rmal;">{Dargh tlhutlhtaHQo'vIS}</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fon=
t-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color:=
transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0,=
0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">accordingly?</div><div=
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new y=
ork,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></=
div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamo=
nd,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;=
">Further, can anyone think of an instance where -neS honorific has to be u=
sed at the same time as the -taH and -vIS suffixes, as in<br></div><div sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,=
times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div>=
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,n=
ew york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">{c=
haw'taHneSvIS}</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fon=
t-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent;
font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-siz=
e: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: tran=
sparent; font-style: normal;">for instance?</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0=
, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; backg=
round-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,seri=
f; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">They look grammatica=
lly correct, but ... awkward, to me.</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0)=
; font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-c=
olor: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><span></span=
></div></body></html>
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