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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: 'Il

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Jun 25 15:53:42 2013

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:53:22 +0000
In-Reply-To: <51C9C622.2080907@trimboli.name>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org

> On 6/25/2013 10:23 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
> >> Klingon word: 'Il
>  >> Part of speech: verb
>  >> Definition: be sincere
> >
> > As used in canon:
> >
> > yI'Il! Be sincere! KGT
> >
> > KGT 189:  Thus, if the occupant of a room heard a door chime, there
> > would probably be no misunderstanding as a result of his or her saying
> > {yI'Il!} ("Be sincere!") rather than the correct {yI'el!} ("Enter!").
> > In the situation at hand, only "Enter!" makes any sense.

SuStel: 
> KGT also explains that commanding with a verb of quality usually requires
> {-'egh} and {-moH}; leaving these off might be used for idiomatic
> expressions.

KGT 117:  Generally, when a verb describing a state of being (for example, {tuj} [be hot]) is used in the imperative form, the suffixes {-'egh} (reflexive suffix) and {-moH} (cause) are used as well...
 
> yI'Il'eghmoH
> be sincere! make yourself sincere!
> 
> I don't see a contradiction with the above, since we're not told that
> {yI'Il} is how you would normally command someone to be sincere, just that
> it translates as "be sincere!"

You can also use {-choH} (change in state) without {-'egh}: 

  yItamchoH 
  Be quiet! ("Become quiet!") TKD

  yIjotchoH
  [Calm down!] PK

  bIboH.  yIjotchoH
  You're impatient. Calm down! KGT

In fact, I can't find any example of these suffixes being used together.


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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