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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] -vo' question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ruben Molina)
Sun Jun 16 19:31:36 2013
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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:31:09 -0500
From: Ruben Molina <rmolina@gmail.com>
To: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?= <esperantist@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller <esperantist@gmail.=
com> wrote:
> However, there is one example where -vo' isn't used strictly in an only
> locative meaning:
>
> chaq SoHvo' vay' vIje' vIneH.
> =C2=ABMaybe I'd like to buy something from you.=C2=BB
>
> Of course one might still interpret this as "buying something away/off
> from you", but it shows that it's possible (probably if a motion is still
> implied, which seems also true for your sentences).
>
>
And from MKE:
<Duj ghajchugh pagh, beylI'vo' 'oH Daje' net chaw'.>
"If [the vessel is] UNOWNED you may buy it from the Bank"
<HoSHal ghajchugh pagh, beylI'vo' 'oH Daje' net chaw'.>
"If [the energy source is] UNOWNED you may buy it from the Bank"
Of course, we can see "the Bank" as a place, but a place does not sell
things.
The selling is done by the "institution" located at that place-
Things are sold *at* places, and that would probably be <beylI'vaD 'oH
Daje'>.
ruben
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:esperantist@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">esperantist@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>However, there is one example w=
here -vo' isn't used strictly in an only locative meaning:<br>
<br>chaq SoHvo' vay' vIje' vIneH.<span><br>=C2=ABMaybe I'd =
like to buy something from you.=C2=BB<br>
<br></span></div><span>Of course one might still interpret this as "bu=
ying something away/off from you", but it shows that it's possible=
(probably if a motion is still implied, which seems also true for your sen=
tences).<br>
</span></div><div><span><br></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>=
<div style>And from MKE:</div><div><br></div><div><Duj ghajchugh pagh, b=
eylI'vo' 'oH Daje' net chaw'.><br></div><div style>
"If [the vessel is]=C2=A0UNOWNED=C2=A0you may buy it from the Bank&quo=
t;</div><div><br></div><div><HoSHal ghajchugh pagh, beylI'vo' &#=
39;oH Daje' net chaw'.><br></div><div>"If [the energy sourc=
e is] UNOWNED you may buy it from the Bank"</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Of course, we can see "the Bank" =
as a place, but a place does not sell things.</div><div style>The selling i=
s done by the "institution" located at that place-</div><div styl=
e>
Things are sold *at* places, and that would probably be <beylI'vaD &=
#39;oH Daje'>.</div><div style><br></div><div style>ruben<br></div><=
div style><br></div></div>
</div></div>
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