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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {je} in noun-noun constructions?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Thu Apr 11 18:12:26 2013

From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Zrajm C Akfohg <zrajm@klingonska.org>, Klingon Language Mailing List
 <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:05:57 +0000
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[Reply All qIpwI' po'Ha' jIH. //qa'meH vIttlhegh tIQ]

In paq'batlh (paq'raD, Canto 9, Stanza 2), there is the phrase:


Dung qo=92 pawDI=92

qeylIS qorDu=92 je ta=92=92e=92 neH

bop bommey

"Upon reaching the upper world,
No one could speak of anything,
But the deeds of Kahless and his kin."

Then, in paq'raD, Canto 12, Stanza 4:


vaSvamDaq

tuq veng je quvvaD

Heghqangbogh SuvwI=92 tu=92be=92lu=92=92a=92

"Is there nobody in this hall
Prepared to die for the honor
Of your tribe and city?"

________________________________
From: Zrajm C Akfohg [zrajm@klingonska.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 23:35
To: Klingon Language Mailing List
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] {je} in noun-noun constructions?

Can I use {je} in a noun-noun construction to say something like this?

     {chal'a' bIQ'a' je jojDaq jIH.}

Does that make sense at all, or is it forbidden somehow?

/maHvatlh


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In paq'batlh (paq'raD, Canto 9, Stanza 2), there is the phrase:<br>
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&quot;Upon reaching the upper world,<br>
No one could speak of anything,<br>
But the deeds of Kahless and his kin.&quot;<br>
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Then, in paq'raD, Canto 12, Stanza 4:<br>
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mal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">vaSvamDaq</span></p>
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al; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Heghqangbogh
 SuvwI=92 tu=92be=92lu=92=92a=92</span></p>
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&quot;Is there nobody in this hall<br>
Prepared to die for the honor<br>
Of your tribe and city?&quot;<br>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;{chal'a' bIQ'a' je jojDaq jIH.}<br>
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Does that make sense at all, or is it forbidden somehow?<br>
<br>
/maHvatlh<br>
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