[95601] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] "where are you from?"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Mon Jan 21 21:33:31 2013
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:33:04 +1000
In-Reply-To: <50FDE694.9080809@trimboli.name>
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jatlhpu' DloraH:
> mebpa'meylIj yIngu'.
vIjangpu'=2C jIjatlh:
> *tI*ngu'. Though I think the singular might be preferable here
> (mebpa'lIj yIngu')=2C since it's rare for one person to occupy more\
> than one guest room.
mujang janSIy=2C jatlh:
> I would like to remind you that <mebpa'mey> was defined as "hotel" in
> KGT.
No=2C it was *glossed* as "hotel"=2C and there's a subtle but important dis=
tinction. As SuStel has pointed out=2C the two words refer to the same obje=
ct=2C but in English it is thought of as a unit=2C whereas in Klingon it is=
conceived of as a number of individual entities.
> Saying <mebpa'meylIj tIngu'> makes it sound like I think you have
> more than one room.
True.
> Saying <mebpa'lIj yIngu'> makes it sound like I want to know your room
> number.
I can see that interpretation too=2C although I'd think of it moreso if the=
conversation has already established which guest rooms/hotel/building the =
single mebpa' is in. What if you're staying in a place that has only one gu=
est room?
QeS
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jatlhpu' DloraH:<br><div>>=3B mebpa'meylIj yIngu'.<br><br>vIjangpu'=2C jI=
jatlh:<br>>=3B *tI*ngu'. Though I think the singular might be preferable =
here<br>>=3B (mebpa'lIj yIngu')=2C since it's rare for one person to occu=
py more\<br>>=3B than one guest room.<br><br>mujang janSIy=2C jatlh:<br>&=
gt=3B I would like to remind you that <=3Bmebpa'mey>=3B was defined as =
"hotel" in<br>>=3B KGT.<br><br>No=2C it was *glossed* as "hotel"=2C and t=
here's a subtle but important distinction. As SuStel has pointed out=2C the=
two words refer to the same object=2C but in English it is thought of as a=
unit=2C whereas in Klingon it is conceived of as a number of individual en=
tities.<br><br>>=3B Saying <=3Bmebpa'meylIj tIngu'>=3B makes it sound=
like I think you have<br>>=3B more than one room.<br><br>True.<br><br>&g=
t=3B Saying <=3Bmebpa'lIj yIngu'>=3B makes it sound like I want to know=
your room<br>>=3B number.<br><br>I can see that interpretation too=2C al=
though I'd think of it moreso if the conversation has already established w=
hich guest rooms/hotel/building the single mebpa' is in. What if you're sta=
ying in a place that has only one guest room?<br><br>QeS<br></div> =
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