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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Tue Jan 1 16:21:30 2013
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: David Holt <kenjutsuka@live.com>, tlhIngan Hol mailing list
<tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 21:21:07 +0000
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> I don't know which texts were used to get the letter frequencies, but
> I'm wondering if using the larger volume of texts that we have now a
> days would change them any...
At the risk of showcasing my ignorance with regards to Scrabble:
Does one actually need a corpus to decide character values for Scrabble? I =
imagine that a lexicon along with the rules for appending affixes would suf=
fice, as the deciding factor is what words can be formed, rather than what =
words are most commonly used (or do rare/difficult words weigh more heavily=
in that calculation?).
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From: David Holt [kenjutsuka@live.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:14
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Alan Anderson <aranders@insightbb.com> =
wrote:
> > I got it from DloraH, who got it from janSIy, who I believe originated =
it.
I didn't originate it, but I may have been the first one to bring a convert=
ed set to the qep'a'. I got the frequencies and values off this very list =
and I no longer remember who did the calculations or came up with the value=
s. It was probably 15 years ago. The game is fun, but the scores are some=
what artificial since the point values were based on rarity of English lett=
ers and so it's weird to have common letters like <tlh> be worth so many po=
ints. I think any new calculations should be based on Qov's <nuq bop bom>,=
since that is a large piece of original tlhIngan Hol writing.
janSIy
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frequencies, but</span><br style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">> I'm wondering if using the larger=
volume of texts that we have now a</span><br style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;=
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<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;"> > days would change them any.=
..</span><br style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">
<br style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">At the risk of showcasing my ignorance=
with regards to Scrabble:</span><br style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">
<br style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma;">Does one actually need a corpus to dec=
ide character values for Scrabble? I imagine that a lexicon along with the =
rules for appending affixes would suffice, as the deciding factor is what w=
ords can be formed, rather than what
words are most commonly used (or do rare/difficult words weigh more heavil=
y in that calculation?).</span><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:14<br>
<b>To:</b> tlhIngan Hol mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Alan Anderson <a=
randers@insightbb.com> wrote:<br>
> > I got it from DloraH, who got it from janSIy, who I believe origi=
nated it.<br>
<br>
I didn't originate it, but I may have been the first one to bring=
a converted set to the qep'a'. I got the frequencies and values off =
this very list and I no longer remember who did the calculations or came up=
with the values. It was probably 15 years ago.
The game is fun, but the scores are somewhat artificial since the point va=
lues were based on rarity of English letters and so it's weird to have comm=
on letters like <tlh> be worth so many points. I think any new =
calculations should be based on Qov's <nuq
bop bom>, since that is a large piece of original tlhIngan Hol writing.=
<br>
<br>
janSIy<br>
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