[95196] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: bal
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Thu Dec 6 14:34:30 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:34:13 +0000
In-Reply-To: <F52986192E9FE346B0B7EF3D6F98E8771225FF66@EXDB3.ug.kth.se>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
A useful verb is {muq} "have a volume of". So if a bloodwine bottle is a standard size:
vaghmaH 'Iw HIq bal muq qeghvam
This barrel has a volume of 50 bloodwine bottles.
To refer to the number of actual bottles in the barrel:
vaghmaH 'Iw HIq bal ngaS qeghvam
This barrel contains 50 bottles of bloodwine.
FYI see {tlho'ren}:
The only unit of volume I'm aware of is {tlho'ren}. I'm
not exactly sure how much one {tlho'ren} is, but it seems
to be in the quart/liter range." [Okrand, st.k 10/22/1997]
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felix Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm@kth.se]
>
> > {'Iw HIq bal} -- bloodwine bottle, IOW the type of bottle used for
> > storing bloodwine
> > {bal 'Iw HIq} -- bottle of bloodwine(?)
>
> With noun-noun constructs, the formula always seems to be "A B" = "B
> pertaining to A".
> So, a bottle of bloodwine would still be 'Iw HIq bal; otherwise, it'd
> be something like "bottled bloodwine" or "bloodwine for bottles".
>
> If you want to specify that it's a bottle which simply happens to
> contain bloodwine, I suppose you could call it {'Iw HIq ngaStaHbogh
> bal'e'}.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Gaerfindel [gaerfindel@hotmail.com]
>
> Once again, the beginner goes out on a limb...
>
> {'Iw HIq bal} -- bloodwine bottle, IOW the type of bottle used for
> storing bloodwine
> {bal 'Iw HIq} -- bottle of bloodwine(?)
>
> {vaghmaH balmey 'Iw HIq ngaS qeghvam.} -- This keg/barrel contains 50
> bottles (worth) of bloodwine.
>
> Or should that be written {vaghmaH bal 'Iw HIqmey 'Iw HIq ngaS
> qeghvam}, treating {bal 'Iw HIq} as a single unit (of measure)?
>
> ~quljIb
>
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