[947] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: NulaDvIp!!!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Tue Jun 1 18:31:11 1993
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From: mark <mark@dragonsys.com>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Cc: tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 93 16:09:53 EST
HoDvo':
> As for the -moHlu', just a subtle shade of meaning I was going for.
> Plain quvHa' seems more like a state whereas with -moHlu' it sounds
> more like an action. Perhaps this is more easily seen if I pick a
> different property verb. Would you see the difference between maSaD
> and wISaDmoHlu'? If you use the passive voice to translate the
> latter, you still might get "We are green", but the meaning is more
> "We are caused to be green". More like somebody threw paint on us--
> an action, not a state.
With SaD there is more of a difference, yes; but in editing I dropped an
important phrase: "with this particular verb [quv]". Unlike greenness,
honor is a societal state. Can one be honored without being given honor
*by others*? Maybe, but I have trouble with the concept. But we were
speaking of quvHa', and perhaps one can speak of being DIShonored
without reference to other people. If that's the distinction you were
aiming for, I agree that it could be meaningful.
- marqem
Mark A. Mandel
Dragon Systems, Inc. : speech recognition : +1 617 965-5200
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