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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: HoQ

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Sep 18 11:05:23 2012

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:05:10 +0000
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QeS, thanks for responding so quickly.

Notice the new form {mIlHa'} "restore honor".

I like the contrast of Type 7 (aspect) suffixes:  {yIntaHwI'pu'} the living=
 ("those who continue to live") vs. {Heghpu'wI'pu'} the dead ("those who ha=
ve died").

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh [mailto:qeslagh@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:46 AM

ghItlhpu' qurgh, jatlh:
> Klingon word: HoQ
> Part of speech: verb
> Definition: be honored falsely, be falsely honorable

jang Voragh, jatlh:
> Related verbs:
> HoQmoH honor falsely
> quv be honored, be honorable
> Qaq behave falsely honorably/in a falsely honorable manner
> mIl be formerly honored
> Have any of these been used in the {paq'batlh}?

I haven't yet got the paq'batlh in a searchable format so I have to search =
by eye, but I couldn't find HoQ or Qaq, and I'll have to look again for quv=
. mIl appears only twice, both in a verse that shows a really nice usage:

  yIntaHwI'pu' vImIlHa'moH jIH
  Heghpu'wI'pu'
  DamIlHa'moH SoH

   "I will restore honor among the living,
  You will restore honor
  Among the dead."

(pp. 146-147; paq'raD 16.22-24)

QeS

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or:#1F497D">QeS, thanks for responding so quickly.&nbsp;
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or:#1F497D">Notice the new form {mIlHa&#8217;} &#8220;restore honor&#8221;.=
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ew"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;col=
or:#1F497D">I like the contrast of Type 7 (aspect) suffixes:&nbsp; {yIntaHw=
I&#8217;pu&#8217;} the living (&#8220;those who continue to live&#8221;) vs=
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 the dead (&#8220;those who have died&#8221;).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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uot;"> Rohan
 Fenwick - QeS 'utlh [mailto:qeslagh@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 18,=
 2012 9:46 AM<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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u' qurgh, jatlh:<br>
&gt; Klingon word: HoQ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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rt of speech: verb<br>
&gt; Definition: be honored falsely, be falsely honorable<br>
<br>
jang Voragh, jatlh:<br>
&gt; Related verbs:<br>
&gt; HoQmoH honor falsely<br>
&gt; quv be honored, be honorable<br>
&gt; Qaq behave falsely honorably/in a falsely honorable manner<br>
&gt; mIl be formerly honored<br>
&gt; Have any of these been used in the {paq'batlh}?<br>
<br>
I haven't yet got the paq'batlh in a searchable format so I have to search =
by eye, but I couldn't find HoQ or Qaq, and I'll have to look again for quv=
. mIl appears only twice, both in a verse that shows a really nice usage:<b=
r>
<br>
<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></=
font>yIntaHwI'pu' vImIlHa'moH jIH<br>
<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></=
font>Heghpu'wI'pu'<br>
<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></=
font>DamIlHa'moH SoH<br>
<br>
<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><=
/font>&quot;I will restore honor among the living,<br>
<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></=
font>You will restore honor<br>
<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></=
font>Among the dead.&quot;<br>
<br>
(pp. 146-147; paq'raD 16.22-24)<br>
<br>
QeS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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