[94484] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI': 'ay' cha' - 13. tIqDaq
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Fri Aug 24 19:32:01 2012
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:31:24 -0600
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
In-Reply-To: <BAY166-W40B60707D592534FF31FB4AABD0@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
At 17:04 '?????' 8/24/2012, Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh wrote:
>Sydney muD Duj verghvo' QInvam vIjang; Dallas =
>leng vIloSlI'. ratlh cha' rep. nI' 'ej Dal.
lenglIj nI' law' lengwIj nI' puS. wa'leS jIvumnIS 'ej cha'leS qep'a'vaD jIm=
ej!
>jIH:
> > mu'mey 'IH wIvchu'bogh lo' be' 'avtanDIl
> > jangDI'. jatlh: =ABjIHDaq bIHoptaHqu' 'e'
> > vISovbej, 'ach qaStaHvIS wa' lup neH
> > bIjatlhqangbe' 'e' vISIv je. 'ach
> > mupIvHa'choHmoHbogh wanI''e', tlhoS muroplaw'bogh wanI''e', DaH qaja'nI=
S.
>
>Qov:
> > I'm having some trouble here. The last thing
> > 'avtanDIl said was =ABvaj Du'IQmoHpu'bogh wanI',
> > DuQuchqa'moHlaHbogh mIw je HIjatlh.=BB So I'm
> > expecting an answer from tIna'tIn, but I
> > interpret that as 'avtanDIl speaking. i.e.
> >
> > Avtandil did not use perfectly chosen flowery
> > words when he answered.
>
>Ah ha, I see what you've done. I've been trying =
>to avoid using {be'} "woman" without a suffix =
>like -vam or -vetlh for precisely this reason =
>and I KNEW that the one time I let it skip by =
>would be the one time someone stumbled.
>
>It's lo'_be', with a space. "The woman used =
>perfectly chosen flowery words when she answered =
>Avtandil". I'll fix this with punctuation or a suffix or something.
yaj. A comma between lo' be' and 'avtanDIl would suffice.
>jIH:
> > qo' Hoch HeHDaq DanejlI' 'e' qaqoy'; chal veHDaq
> > DajaHnISchugh, bIruch 'ej DaSam 'e' qaqoy'. DaH
> > choghoSpu'pa' qajatlhlaHbe'pu', 'ach Daqvam Hopvo'
>
>Qov:
> > qatlh Hop DaqDaj? jIyajbe'.
>
>Hoppu' DaqDaj, tIna'tInDaq SumlaHbe'pu'mo' 'avtanDIl. jIchuHnIS'a'?
I guess I need to translate again to show my understanding ...
I beg of you to search every corner of the earth. =
If you must go to the edge of the sky, do it, and =
I beg you to find him. Now, before you came to =
me, I couldn't speak to you, but from this distant place ...
They can't get much closer to one another than =
they are now and retain a family rating. Which =
distant place is she talking about?
>jIH:
> > jIHvaD DuDuQtaH parmaq 'e' vItu'. tIqlIj
> > DuQtaHmo' parmaqvam, not yev 'oy''e' SIQbogh 'ej
> > DuSaQmoH 'e' vIghov. Duvonta' parmaq; qama'Daj Damojpu'.
>
>Qov:
> > 'avtanDIl qab vIlegh vIneH, jatlhtaHvIS tIna'tIn.
>
>chaq tet. chaq SaQ. chaq wuSDaj yIv. yInaj! :)
jInajbej.
>jIH:
> > =ABcha' ngoDmo' DuQaH Qu'vam qachavmoHbogh.
>
>Qov:
> > chavmoH'a'? Qu' nobmo' chavmoH'a'?
>
>The lack of tense here's probably obscuring the =
>meaning. I might recast to go something with pIH.
nIteb chavnISlaw' 'avtanDIl. chavmoHlaHbe'law' tIna'tIn.
>jIH:
> > ngoD wa'DIch'e', SuvwI''a' SoH; 'u'Daq SuvwI''e'
> > SoH Dun law' Hoch Dun puS. ngoD cha'DIch'e', jIH
> > chomuSHa'qu' SoH. teHba' 'ej yuDHa' 'e' DaSov.
> > vaj yIjaH; SuvwI'vetlh yInejlI', Sumchugh ghaH pagh Hopchugh.
>Qov:
> > jangmeH 'eb nobbe''a'? 'avtanDIl vIvupqu'. ta' muSHa'mo' ghImlu'.
>
>jangmeH 'eb ghajchugh 'avtanDIl jatqu' ghaH 'e' =
>vIpIH. ghaytan Do', ghaHvaD 'eb nobbe'law'taHmo' tIna'tIn.
jatlhqu'laHqu'bej.
>jIH:
> > DaHoSghajqu'choHmoHlaH. cho'IQHa'choHDI', jIHvaD
> > veqlargh Datojpu'; tIqwIjDaq tulmoHmeH lav
> > yIpoch 'ej HoSmoHmeH pormey 'IH tIjaD. ghIq HIchegh, 'o 'IwwI'[1],
>
>Qov:
> > bang pong rur. DaH jorbe'chugh 'avtanDIl tIq, Do'.
>
>bang pong rur 'e' vIHech. vaj yaj vay' 'e' vItul. maj. :)
rurbej. vulchoH 'avtanDIl 'e' vIpIH.
>jIH:
> > 'ej qaghom, jul vIrur. vaj HIghomqa'. qaStaHvIS wej DIS,
>
>Qov:
> > wej DIS! ghImbej!
>
>tuv'eghnISmoHba'!
I guess I'd better get used to that =
'egh+stuff+moH format if I'm going to read your =
stuff. I wonder what I do repeatedly that people =
find particularly stumbleworthy. Other than typo like an elephant.
>Added later: I'm going to finish this =
>prematurely here since I'm now in the Dallas =
>airport after a 16-hour nonstop flight from =
>Sydney. My TKD is in my checked luggage, I'm =
>using public and therefore time-limited =
>internet, and I'm pretty much stuffed from =
>having got intermittent bouts of sleep in a =
>variety of positions varying from mildly =
>irritating to backache-inducing. So the rest I'll deal with later.
>
>ghunchu'wI' - tugh qalegh!
jIghal! 'ach wa'leS mupoQbej pInwI'.
- Qov =
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