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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI': 'ay' cha' - 12.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Qov)
Wed Aug 22 00:09:01 2012
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:03:03 -0600
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
From: Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
In-Reply-To: <BAY166-W436FCC80C9EEDEF1EE7F66AABF0@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
At 21:10 '?????' 8/21/2012, Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh wrote:
> > Also, sorry QeS. But I am having a lot of fun.
>
>yItlhIjQo'! vItIvtaH je jIH. 'e' yIHonQo'. I'm =
>beginning to suspect we may be uncontrollable when we hit qep'a'.
jISeychoH.
>jIH:
> > jang 'utlh: =ABmuvItba'ta' puqbe'wI' mob,=BB
>
>Qov:
> > I know you're going for 'only daughter' but =
> it could be interpreted as 'lonely daughter'. How about wa'DIch QavDIch j=
e.
>
>Good point. I'm not sure QavDIch is legal =
>though. What do you think of wa'DIch HochDIch je?
vIparHa'qu'.
>jIH:
> > 'ej ghurmoHtaH bel. Datvo' voDleH[1] quS'a' =
> pa'Daq bom muchwI', qul mI'wI' lurItlu'; nobmey =
> law' lunoblu'. not nobqangwI' nIv boghmoHta' QI'tu'!
>
>Qov:
> > chay' mIpvam boSpu' voDleH? rup 'ej nobqa'taH.
>
>jIHagh! teHbej. DuH latlh: Sumbogh Sepmey weH =
>'ej mIp nIH. ghaytan qaS Hoch cha'.
maj. vIHarlaH.
>jIH:
> > qaStaHvIS wanI', pa'DajDaq ba'taH 'avtanDIl, yIvbeHDaj neH tuQtaHvIS.
>
>Qov:
> > jIHaghqu'! pa'Daq ba'taHvIS loD, yopwaH =
> tuQbe'taHvIS nuq ta'taH? nejtaHvIS voDleH =
> toy'wI'pu', pIj tIna'tIn leghpu' 'ach wej tlhob =
> 'e' ngIl. What's Klingon for 'box of Kleenex and bottle of lotion'?
>
>jIHvaD lutvam DaQaw'taH SoH, 'e' Datlhoj'a'?? :P
jaS vIyajlaHbe'. jaS vIyajnISchugh HIchuH!
>Qov:
> > lojmIt Damup 'e' yIlIjQo', be'! pay' 'avtanDIl HurDagh Dalegh DaneHbe'.
> > (Apparently your explicit non warning hasn't stunted my imagination any=
).
>
>Dammit, I'm at uni. Sitting here trying to =
>stifle my laughter is getting tougher by the moment.
'avtanDIl HurDaghmo' yIHaghQo'. ghaytan Doj. reH Doj 'avtanDIl.
>jIH:
> > tagha' jul'a'Daj qIHmo' belqu'choH je;
>
>Qov:
> > qaSpu' DIS 'ej wej qIHqu'pu'? loD vIvup.
>
>tuvbej ghaH. 'ej boHchoHchugh, reH SaHtaH =
>HurDaghDaj. (Sorry, I just couldn't resist.)
Now we know what it's called, anyway.
>jIH:
> > paghmo' tuH ghaH.
>
>Qov:
> > yopwaH tuQbe'taH'a'?
>
>qarlaw'! 'oH tuQbe'law'pu'. Poor guy - so =
>smitten he doesn't even remember to wear his =
>pants. Maybe I should make note in the text that =
>he doesn't actually go to tIna'tIn half-naked.
It would change the tone of the story somewhat.
>jIH:
> > ba'taHvIS nIvwI' ghajbe'bogh be'vetlh'e', 'IQlaw'. wov, 'ej chal 'ul ru=
r;
>
>Qov:
> > chal 'ul rur. Qob'a'?
>
>ghobe', wov: {wov 'ej chal 'ul rur}. {'ej} vIlo'be' 'e' DaQub'a'?
wovqu'chu' chal 'ul 'ach qaStaHvIS lupHom neH =
wov. leghDI' vay' leghbe'pu' tlhoS 'e' HarlaH. =
chal 'ul vIqelDI' Do, Qob, HoS je vIqel, wov 'e' vIqelpa' 'ach vIlajqang.
>jIH:
> > tlhoS maS luSo' tIHHeyDaj. porghDaj lang
>
>Qov:
> > Daj. langwI' maS 'avtanDIl. be' Ha'DIbaH yap vImaS jIH.
>
>Well, since there's nothing on the Klingon =
>vocabulary spectrum between lang and pI'/ror...
Qub Qob ... HoS 'eSSIm. ror qImyal. yaD Hota'ro'. =
lang .. nuvpu' DaqIHbe'pu'. motlh porghmey vIjuvbe'.
>jIH:
> > vel nItbogh veDDIr nIv; volchaHDajvo' HuS =
> waghqu'law'bogh ngup tIS. 'ach 'IHmoHmeH 'ut =
> neH qIjbogh 'ej tIq charghbogh Huy'Du'Daj'e',
>
>Qov:
> > "Doj nguplIj tIna'tIn. ravwIjDaq nIvlaw'."
>
>chojoy'taH 'e' DatIvba'. :P
DatIv 'e' DaSov. qep'a'Daq SaH nuSovbe'bogh nuv =
puS. parmaqqaypu' maHbe' 'e' luHarbe'.
>jIH:
> > nguqHa' 'ej vuvtaH 'avtanDIl, ba'DI'. bejchuq =
> qabchaj; belchoHchu' 'avtanDIl, bangna'Daj bejtaHvIS.
> > jatlh loD: =AB'o muSeHchu'bogh be''a', chay' =
> qajatlhlaH? jul ghomchugh maS'e', natlhlu'pu' 'ej ngabqu'law'.
>
>Qov:
> > I'm not quite following how the sun =
> overwhelming the moon is a specific complement =
> to tIna'tIn, when 'avtanDIl says it, unless it's just
> > universally understood that she is the sun.
>
>Pretty much, yes. Though 'avtanDIl and the =
>mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI' both get the sun-like =
>comparisons throughout the poem as well so it gets awful confusing at time=
s.
It's not confusing to the reader, because the =
metaphor is firmly established, but I'm just =
looking at it from tIna'tIn's point of view. I =
guess she knows that everyone compares her to the =
sun, so 'avtanDIl doesn't even have to say it.
>jIH:
> > DaH jIHvo' mu'mey natlhlu'pu' 'ej =
> ngabchoHlaw' yabwIj'e'. vaj Du'IQmoHpu'bogh =
> wanI', DuQuchqa'moHlaHbogh mIw je HIjatlh.=BB
>
>Qov:
> > 'IQ'a'? 'IQ tIna'tIn wej net Del.
>
>vIjatlh 'e' vIbej: "...ba'taHvIS nIvwI' =
>ghajbe'bogh be'vetlh'e', 'IQlaw'. wov, 'ej chal =
>'ul rur..." jIchuHnISqa''a'? chaq jIjatlh: {'IQqu'law' je ghaH}.
bong vIlaDbe'law'. chaq <'IQ> vIleghpu'DI' =
<'IH > vIyaj. chaq jImoD neH. vebwI''e' QIt vIlaD.
>jIH:
> > SKI: roStevan decides the warrior in the =
> sabre bear pelt was just an evil spirit, and so =
> calls for the celebrations to start anew. But =
> tIna'tIn isn't so sure and summons 'avtanDIl to =
> her to help ease her heart's continuing pain.
>
>Qov:
> > Careful. Your summary just gave out info that =
> the reader doesn't have. I wanted to spend the =
> day imagining that she had summoned him for a quickie in the throne room.
>
>Fair enough - I'll try to be more careful. =
>(Though maybe a quickie in the throne room is =
>how she deals with her pain. It'd sure as hell take 'avtanDIl's mind off h=
is.)
QujwIjvaD bIjeSmo' choQuchmoHpu'.
> > I'm off to google Rustaveli slash fiction =
> now. I'll try to be better behaved with respect to the next 'ay'.
>
>Oh, if you must. :P
chotungHa'taHchugh jImevbe'.
- Qov =
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