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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI': 'ay' cha' - 12.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Tue Aug 21 11:40:29 2012
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:40:10 -0700
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On 2012-08-21, at 5:51, Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com> wrot=
e:
> The slaves were sent out for a whole year looking for the warrior in the s=
abre bear pelt, and failed; so they have returned to tell roStevan.
luSambe'pu'mo' nImya' ghaH 'e' HarlaH 'ej leSlaH. maj.=20
> Warnings: None. =46rom here out I'll provide warnings only when they're ne=
eded
I found that providing them when they weren't needed helped me not forget th=
em when they were.=20
> (the whole story's probably only really PG
Aw don't say that. I'm still holding out for the scene where 'avtanDIl and t=
Ina'tIn make out in passionate detail, possibly on horseback.=20
> to Qov's MA).
I don't know the Austraiian rating system, but the American one would probab=
ly give me an R for qImyal's impalement, and then an even harsher one for th=
e Mahoun/'eSSIm sex scenes. Heck, it would probably get a more restrictive r=
ating for Hota'ro walking around without a shirt than for Hota'ro' getting s=
tabbed through the torso. I suppose it depends on camera angles.=20
And I think I had better give a content warning for this commentary. Anyone s=
haring the sexual squeamishness of American censors, may wish to slap me. A=
lso, sorry QeS. But I am having a lot of fun.=20
> 12. bIHeghvIpchugh, bIHeghpu'
>=20
> jatlh toy'wI'pu': =AB'o 'utlh, puHmeyDaq malengpu', 'ach loDvetlh Qup wISa=
mlaHbe'pu', vaj mabelchoHbe'pu'. yIntaHbogh vay' 'ej leghpu'bogh wIqIHbe'pu'=
; vaj latlh nab yI'oghneS, pItoy'laHbe'pu'mo' maH.=BB
nab luta'pu'. toy'pu'.=20
> jang 'utlh: =ABmuvItba'ta' puqbe'wI' mob,=BB
I know you're going for 'only daughter' but it could be interpreted as 'lone=
ly daughter'. How about wa'DIch QavDIch je.=20
> jatlh. =ABmIghbogh 'ej 'upbogh qa''e' vIleghpu' jIH; jaghwI' DameH ghaH mu=
ghoSpu'; mungeHba'pu' QI'tu'. tagha', pay' qechmeywIj 'It lughImlu', vaj DaH=
vISaHbe'choHlaH!=BB
maj. nab lIjbe'pu'.=20
> jatlhDI', lop qaSqa'moHlu'
lopno'! majQa'!
> 'ej ghurmoHtaH bel. Datvo' voDleH[1] quS'a' pa'Daq bom muchwI', qul mI'wI'=
lurItlu'; nobmey law' lunoblu'. not nobqangwI' nIv boghmoHta' QI'tu'!
chay' mIpvam boSpu' voDleH? rup 'ej nobqa'taH.=20
> qaStaHvIS wanI', pa'DajDaq ba'taH 'avtanDIl, yIvbeHDaj neH tuQtaHvIS.
jIHaghqu'! pa'Daq ba'taHvIS loD, yopwaH tuQbe'taHvIS nuq ta'taH? nejtaHvIS v=
oDleH toy'wI'pu', pIj tIna'tIn leghpu' 'ach wej tlhob 'e' ngIl. What's Kling=
on for 'box of Kleenex and bottle of lotion'?
> bomtaH ghaH, loptaH, HurDagh yachtaH.
Dejchu' Qov HaghtaHvIS. So that's what they call it in the Empire. Poor 'avt=
anDIl.=20
> tugh pa'Daj ghoS tIna'tIn
lojmIt Damup 'e' yIlIjQo', be'! pay' 'avtanDIl HurDagh Dalegh DaneHbe'.=20
(Apparently your explicit non warning hasn't stunted my imagination any).
> ... toy'wI''a',
Do'.=20
> 'ej jatlh ghaH: =ABDurIt voDleHwI', lav 'IH rurbogh porgh ghajwI', naghboc=
h pup rurbogh qab ghajwI'.=BB
DuneH, 'avtanDIl!
> QInvam Dun QoyDI' 'avtanDIl, belqu'choH.
'ej rIn Qu'Daj.=20
> QamchoH ghaH; nIvbogh wepDaj 'ej nguvqu'bogh tuQ'eghmoH
yopwaH yIlIjQo', 'avtanDIl.=20
> . tagha' jul'a'Daj qIHmo' belqu'choH je;=20
qaSpu' DIS 'ej wej qIHqu'pu'? loD vIvup.=20
> not nIteb tay'pu' 'avtanDIl tIna'tIn je.
> 'IHwI' bejlaHchugh 'ej bangDajDaq SumlaHchugh, belchoHbej vay'. HemtaHvIS '=
ej jaqtaHvIS,
Do' DaH jeqbe'taHvIS.=20
> tIna'tIn jaH 'avtanDIl'e';
voDleH Such. potlh wanI'.=20
> paghmo' tuH ghaH.
yopwaH tuQbe'taH'a'?
> be'vamvaD pIj SaQpu', pIj 'IQpu', pIj 'Itpu'; DaH, tagha' leghlaH.
yIjottaH 'avtanDIl. 'eblIj yInatlhQo'.=20
> ba'taHvIS nIvwI' ghajbe'bogh be'vetlh'e', 'IQlaw'. wov, 'ej chal 'ul rur;=20=
chal 'ul rur. Qob'a'?
> tlhoS maS luSo' tIHHeyDaj. porghDaj lang
Daj. langwI' maS 'avtanDIl. be' Ha'DIbaH yap vImaS jIH.=20
> vel nItbogh veDDIr nIv; volchaHDajvo' HuS waghqu'law'bogh ngup tIS. 'ach '=
IHmoHmeH 'ut neH qIjbogh 'ej tIq charghbogh Huy'Du'Daj'e',
"Doj nguplIj tIna'tIn. ravwIjDaq nIvlaw'."
> tIqbogh 'ej mongDaj Dechbogh jIbDaj'e' je.
'avtanDIl vIvup. 'oy'ba' tIqDaj.=20
> Qublaw'taH 'ej tamtaH ghaH, ba'taHvIS 'ej choljaH Doq tuQtaHvIS. 'avtanDIl=
van ghaH, ghIq QamchoH 'ej pe'vIlHa' 'avtanDIl ba'choHmoH.
tlhoS jorbeH 'avtanDIl tIq.=20
> nguqHa' 'ej vuvtaH 'avtanDIl, ba'DI'. bejchuq qabchaj; belchoHchu' 'avtanD=
Il, bangna'Daj bejtaHvIS.
> jatlh loD: =AB'o muSeHchu'bogh be''a', chay' qajatlhlaH? jul ghomchugh maS=
'e', natlhlu'pu' 'ej ngabqu'law'.
I'm not quite following how the sun overwhelming the moon is a specific comp=
lement to tIna'tIn, when 'avtanDIl says it, unless it's just universally und=
erstood that she is the sun.=20
> DaH jIHvo' mu'mey natlhlu'pu' 'ej ngabchoHlaw' yabwIj'e'. vaj Du'IQmoHpu'b=
ogh wanI', DuQuchqa'moHlaHbogh mIw je HIjatlh.=BB
'IQ'a'? 'IQ tIna'tIn wej net Del.=20
> --------
> [1] Henceforth I'm using voDleH instead of joH'a'. 'Cause I can. The petty=
lords will remain as jawpu'
maj.=20
> --------
> SKI: roStevan decides the warrior in the sabre bear pelt was just an evil s=
pirit, and so calls for the celebrations to start anew. But tIna'tIn isn't s=
o sure and summons 'avtanDIl to her to help ease her heart's continuing pain=
.
Careful. Your summary just gave out info that the reader doesn't have. I wan=
ted to spend the day imagining that she had summoned him for a quickie in th=
e throne room. =20
I'm off to google Rustaveli slash fiction now. I'll try to be better behaved=
with respect to the next 'ay'.=20=
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The slaves were sent out for a whole year looking for the warrior in the sab=
re bear pelt, and failed; so they have returned to tell roStevan.<br></div><=
/div></blockquote><div><br></div>luSambe'pu'mo' nImya' ghaH 'e' HarlaH 'ej l=
eSlaH. maj. <div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Wa=
rnings: None. =46rom here out I'll provide warnings only when they're needed=
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I found that providing them when the=
y weren't needed helped me not forget them when they were. </div><div><=
br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"> (the whole story's proba=
bly only really PG </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Aw don't say that=
. I'm still holding out for the scene where 'avtanDIl and tIna'tIn make out i=
n passionate detail, possibly on horseback. </div><div><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">to Qov's MA).<br></div></div></blockquote=
><div><br></div>I don't know the Austraiian rating system, but the American o=
ne would probably give me an R for qImyal's impalement, and then an even har=
sher one for the Mahoun/'eSSIm sex scenes. Heck, it would probably get a mor=
e restrictive rating for Hota'ro walking around without a shirt than for Hot=
a'ro' getting stabbed through the torso. I suppose it depends on camera angl=
es. </div><div><br></div><div>And I think I had better give a content w=
arning for this commentary. Anyone sharing the sexual squeamishness of Ameri=
can censors, may wish to slap me. Also, sorry QeS. But I am having a l=
ot of fun. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">12. bIHeghvIpchugh, bIHeghpu'<br><br>jatlh toy'wI'pu': =C2=AB'o 'utlh, pu=
HmeyDaq malengpu', 'ach loDvetlh Qup wISamlaHbe'pu', vaj mabelchoHbe'pu'. yI=
ntaHbogh vay' 'ej leghpu'bogh wIqIHbe'pu'; vaj latlh nab yI'oghneS, pItoy'la=
Hbe'pu'mo' maH.=C2=BB<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>nab luta'pu=
'. toy'pu'. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">jang 'utlh: =C2=ABmuvItba'ta' puqbe'wI' mob,=C2=BB</div></div></blockquo=
te><div><br></div>I know you're going for 'only daughter' but it could be in=
terpreted as 'lonely daughter'. How about wa'DIch QavDIch je. </div><di=
v><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"> jatlh. =C2=ABmIghbogh=
'ej 'upbogh qa''e' vIleghpu' jIH; jaghwI' DameH ghaH mughoSpu'; mungeHba'pu=
' QI'tu'. tagha', pay' qechmeywIj 'It lughImlu', vaj DaH vISaHbe'choHlaH!=C2=
=BB<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>maj. nab lIjbe'pu'. </di=
v><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">jatlhDI', lop qaS=
qa'moHlu' </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>lopno'! majQa'!</div><div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">'ej ghurmoHtaH bel. Datv=
o' voDleH[1] quS'a' pa'Daq bom muchwI', qul mI'wI' lurItlu'; nobmey law' lun=
oblu'. not nobqangwI' nIv boghmoHta' QI'tu'! </div></div></blockquote><div><=
br></div>chay' mIpvam boSpu' voDleH? rup 'ej nobqa'taH. </div><div><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">qaStaHvIS wanI', pa'DajDaq b=
a'taH 'avtanDIl, yIvbeHDaj neH tuQtaHvIS. </div></div></blockquote><div><br>=
</div>jIHaghqu'! pa'Daq ba'taHvIS loD, yopwaH tuQbe'taHvIS nuq ta'taH? nejta=
HvIS voDleH toy'wI'pu', pIj tIna'tIn leghpu' 'ach wej tlhob 'e' ngIl. What's=
Klingon for 'box of Kleenex and bottle of lotion'?</div><div><br><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">bomtaH ghaH, loptaH, HurDagh yachtaH.<=
/div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Dejchu' Qov HaghtaHvIS. So that's wha=
t they call it in the Empire. Poor 'avtanDIl. </div><div><br><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"> tugh pa'Daj ghoS tIna'tIn </div></div=
></blockquote><div><br></div>lojmIt Damup 'e' yIlIjQo', be'! pay' 'avtanDIl H=
urDagh Dalegh DaneHbe'. </div><div>(Apparently your explicit non warnin=
g hasn't stunted my imagination any).</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">... toy'wI''a',</div></div></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv>Do'. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
'ej jatlh ghaH: =C2=ABDurIt voDleHwI', lav 'IH rurbogh porgh ghajwI', naghb=
och pup rurbogh qab ghajwI'.=C2=BB<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></di=
v>DuneH, 'avtanDIl!</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">QInvam Dun QoyDI' 'avtanDIl, belqu'choH.</div></div></blockquote><div>=
<br></div>'ej rIn Qu'Daj. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"> QamchoH ghaH; nIvbogh wepDaj 'ej nguvqu'bogh<span class=3D=
"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.=
292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -web=
kit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"> tuQ'eghmoH=
</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>yopwaH yIlIjQo', 'avtanDIl.&n=
bsp;</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">. tagha' j=
ul'a'Daj qIHmo' belqu'choH je; </div></div></blockquote><div><span class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.2=
96875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webk=
it-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div=
><div>qaSpu'<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-=
color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175,=
192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.=
230469); "> DIS 'ej wej qIHqu'pu'? loD vIvup. </span><br></div><div><sp=
an class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26,=
26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.23=
0469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br>=
</span></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">not nIteb tay'p=
u' 'avtanDIl tIna'tIn je.</div></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr">'IHwI' bejlaHchugh 'ej bangDajDaq SumlaHchugh, belchoH=
bej vay'. HemtaHvIS 'ej jaqtaHvIS,</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Do=
' DaH jeqbe'taHvIS. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"> tIna'tIn jaH 'avtanDIl'e'; </div></div></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div>voDleH Such. potlh wanI'. </div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">paghmo' tuH ghaH. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv>yopwaH tuQbe'taH'a'?</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">be'vamvaD pIj SaQpu', pIj 'IQpu', pIj 'Itpu'; DaH, tagha' leghlaH.=
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>yIjottaH 'avtanDIl. 'eblIj yInatlhQo=
'. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"> ba't=
aHvIS nIvwI' ghajbe'bogh be'vetlh'e', 'IQlaw'. wov, 'ej chal 'ul rur; </div>=
</div></blockquote><div><br></div>chal 'ul rur. Qob'a'?</div><div><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">tlhoS maS luSo' tIHHeyDaj. porghDa=
j lang </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Daj. langwI' maS 'avtanD=
Il. be' Ha'DIbaH yap vImaS jIH. </div></div><div><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color=
: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192,=
227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.23046=
9); ">vel nItbogh veDDIr nIv; volchaHDajvo' HuS waghqu'law'bogh ngup tIS. 'a=
ch 'IHmoHmeH 'ut neH qIjbogh 'ej tIq charghbogh Huy'Du'Daj'e', </span></bloc=
kquote><div><br></div>"Doj nguplIj tIna'tIn. ravwIjDaq nIvlaw'."</div><div><=
br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-compo=
sition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-=
color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">tIqbogh 'ej mongDaj Dechbogh jIbDaj'e=
' je.</span><br></blockquote><div><br></div>'avtanDIl vIvup. 'oy'ba' tIqDaj.=
</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Qublaw'=
taH 'ej tamtaH ghaH, ba'taHvIS 'ej choljaH Doq tuQtaHvIS. 'avtanDIl van ghaH=
, ghIq QamchoH 'ej pe'vIlHa' 'avtanDIl ba'choHmoH. </div></div></blockquote>=
<div><br></div>tlhoS jorbeH 'avtanDIl tIq. </div><div><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">nguqHa' 'ej vuvtaH 'avtanDIl, ba'DI'. bej=
chuq qabchaj; belchoHchu' 'avtanDIl, bangna'Daj bejtaHvIS.<br>jatlh loD: =C2=
=AB'o muSeHchu'bogh be''a', chay' qajatlhlaH? jul ghomchugh maS'e', natlhlu'=
pu' 'ej ngabqu'law'. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I'm not quite f=
ollowing how the sun overwhelming the moon is a specific complement to tIna'=
tIn, when 'avtanDIl says it, unless it's just universally understood that sh=
e is the sun. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">DaH jIHvo' mu'mey natlhlu'pu' 'ej ngabchoHlaw' yabwIj'e'. vaj Du'IQmoH=
pu'bogh wanI', DuQuchqa'moHlaHbogh mIw je HIjatlh.=C2=BB<br></div></div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div>'IQ'a'? 'IQ tIna'tIn wej net Del. </div><div><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">--------<br>[1] Henceforth=
I'm using voDleH instead of joH'a'. 'Cause I can. The petty lords will rema=
in as jawpu'<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>maj. <br><br><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">--------<br>SKI: roStevan deci=
des the warrior in the sabre bear pelt was just an evil spirit, and so calls=
for the celebrations to start anew. But tIna'tIn isn't so sure and summons '=
avtanDIl to her to help ease her heart's continuing pain.<br></div></div></b=
lockquote><br></div><div>Careful. Your summary just gave out info that the r=
eader doesn't have. I wanted to spend the day imagining that she had summone=
d him for a quickie in the throne room. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm o=
ff to google Rustaveli slash fiction now. I'll try to be better behaved with=
respect to the next 'ay'. </div></body></html>=
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