[94181] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI': 'ay' 1 - DujlIj yIvoq
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Sat Jul 28 19:08:56 2012
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:20:22 -0600
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
In-Reply-To: <BAY166-W46E23A99BECB92A3FD4C1FAAC00@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
At 06:50 '?????' 7/28/2012, you wrote:
>Okay, Qov, if it'll keep you happy. :)
Quchmo' Qov mI'choH!
>It's a long poem (novel-length), so it might be =
>a bit quiet action-wise for the first couple =
>installments, but then Shota Rustaveli wasn't =
>aiming to write a mini-climax every 250 words, either.
jIqaD'eghchoHDI' jItob'eghchu'.
> The poem is already divided into 47 =
> 'ay''a'mey, but as with nuq bop bom I'll split =
> it into 'ay'Hommey of around 250 words for easy digestion.
vaj mIw chut cherlu'.
>And away we go!
>'ay''a' wa'DIch: roStevan, qolvat[1] Sep joH
>
>1: DujlIj yIvoq
>QI'tu' HoS'a'mo'[2], ben law' Qo'noSDaq qolvat =
>Sep che'taH roStevan'e'. joH HoSghaj ghaH; Dugh =
>ghaH, jeQ, quv, 'ej val. pung lo', leSSov =
>ghajchu', 'ej Do', 'ach nguqHa'[3]. toy'wI' =
>law', SuvwI' law' je ra'. SuvwI' Doj ghaHqu' je, =
>'ej pov SoQ laHDaj. puqloD Hutlh; wa' puqbe' mob =
>neH ghaj. 'IH puqbe', Salbogh jul rurchu'; ghaH =
>Dechbogh qo' wovmoHmeH boghlaw'pu' ghaH. =
>'IHqu'chu'mo', 'IQchoH luleghbogh loD 'ej =
>maw'choH. joH puqbe'vam'e' naDlu'meH, 'ut =
>wa'netlh jatDu', valwI' Sovna' je[4]. pongDaj =
>'oH tIna'tIn'e'; noyjaj pongvetlh!
lut vItIvchoHpu'.
>wa' jaj, qeSwI'pu'Daj rIt
toH, bItagh 'e' vIchupDI' jInmol Dataghpu' 'e' =
vIHar. 'ach mu'vetlh Dalo'mo' DaH jISov. DaH bItaghbejtaH. majQa'!
>roStevan joH. lucholpu' 'ej ba' chaH 'e' tlhob ghaH.
I get told off when I don't use {ba'choH} in this context.
>batlh chaHvaD jatlh, HemtaHvIS 'ej jottaHvIS =
>ghaH. =AB vay' SaqelmoHmeH SarItta'. qeS manobchuqjaj maH tay', =BB
{matay'} or {Sutay'}
> jatlh. =AB ngo'choHDI' lav 'IH, QaDchoHDI' =
> porDaj 'ej nguvHa'choHDI', nenchoH latlh por 'ej Du'Hom 'IHqa'moH.
I got confused here whether the metaphor is of =
new leaves replacing old on the same bush or new =
bushes in the same garden. If the second por were =
a Sor or a lav, it would make more sense to me.
>DaH jIHvaD qaSchoH yIn choS; tugh muHurghmoH yIn =
>bertlham ram. nuvpu' ropmey'e' qanchoHghach qab =
>law' Hoch qab puS. chaq DaHjaj jIHeghbe', chaq =
>wa'leS jIHeghbe', 'ach 'opleS jIHeghbej. chay' =
>bochlaH wovmoHwI', So'taHvIS muD Hurgh? [5] =
>puqbe'wI' Dun law' jul Dun puS; ghaH Sughlu' 'ej joH woQwIj gheS 'e' vIchu=
p. =BB
>
>morghchoH qeSwI'pu' 'ej jaq.
Qochbe'chugh joH mawlaH. Also I just realized =
that you're deliberately leaving a space between =
the guillemets and the text. Who else likes that better?
>=AB qanchoHghach yIqelneSQo', 'o joH! =
>nguvHa'choHDI' 'ej QaDchoHDI' lav 'IH, pIwDaj =
>nIv larghlu'taH. maS'e' So'choHbogh QIb wov law' =
>Hov wov puS, 'ej vaj qabbogh qeSlIj'e' nIv law' =
>QaQbogh qeS'e' lunobbogh latlh nIv puS.
I stumbled over 'ej vaj, preferring vaj aone.
>vay''e' neHqu'bogh qa'lIj Da'angta' 'e' =
>wInaDqu'. jul wov jeybogh be' 'IHvaD wo'lIj =
>Danobjaj. be' ghaHbej, 'ach che'wI''a' mojmeH =
>ghaH boghmoHpu' QI'tu'. che'laHchu' ghaH. 'e' =
>wIjatlhDI' 'etlhlIj wIbochmoHbe'qu';
qatlh 'etlhlIj'e' bochmoHbe'? yapbe''a' ghIch?
>pIj wIjatlh maH bIDachtaHvIS SoH. norghna' bIH =
>norgh puqloD'e', norgh puqbe''e' je. qo' 'IHmoH =
>jul, qo' 'IHmoHjaj je puqbe'lI' ta'mey. =BB
lut vItIvbej. puqbe' qImHa'bogh lut pIm ta''e' =
charghjaj joHvam. motlh rurbogh lutvaD puqbe' 'IH =
nawnISmoH joH, 'ej loDnalDaj Sugh. qechvam vImaS.
>--------
>[1] Kol'vat is a region on Qo'noS, from =
>Diplomatic Implausibility. I'm extending it to =
>Sep status here, because reasons. (Mostly I =
>don't want to have to use a Sep that's already =
>canon because most have weird dialect things =
>going on. I'll be using those later but sticking =
>to straight ta' Hol for the protags.)
maj. I much prefer a Klingon retelling.
>[2] Relocating to Qo'noS as the Klingon Hamlet =
>did. As a result there's a lot of Christian =
>references to tone down, so there'll be a lot of vague QI'tu's and qeylISe=
s.
Daj. We're talking Georgia as in Gruzinskaya, =
no? I would have thought it was Muslim. ghorgh qaS?
>[3] Everyone get "be humble" or "be modest" out of this?
SIbI'. muyevmoHbe'qu'.
>[5] Cheery bugger, isn't he?
val 'ej SepDaq SaHqu'.
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