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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: wel
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Fri Jun 29 12:01:14 2012
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Christopher Kidder <cokidder@cbtheatre.org>, Steven Boozer
<sboozer@uchicago.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:00:43 +0000
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> Color me stupid, but what does MKE stand for?
lu'. qaDoqmoH 'ej qaSuDmoH.
> ghunchu'wI' discusses {wel} which was introduced in the opera {'u'}:
Actually, from what I understand, this wasn't from the paq'batlh session; I=
believe it was given as some sort of teaser for Klingon Monopoly (which I =
don't think we were aware of at the time, apart from MO and vavoy).
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From: Christopher Kidder [cokidder@cbtheatre.org]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 17:09
To: Steven Boozer
Cc: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: wel
Color me stupid, but what does MKE stand for?
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto=
:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote:
> Klingon word: wel
> Part of speech: verb
> Definition: owe (someone)
Used in canon:
voHDajbo' wellu' 200
Mortgaged for 200. MKE
yervamvaD voHDajbo' wellu'chugh, 'echletHom Dopvam yIcha'
Card must be turned this side up if property is mortgaged. MKE
ghunchu'wI' discusses {wel} which was introduced in the opera {'u'}:
When someone has earned a reward but the prize is not yet
available to be given, the person in charge of presenting it
can say {qawel} "I owe you}. It is probably also appropriate
when you have convinced someone to give you some service or
product with the understanding that you will pay for it later.
[ghunchu'wI', 8/21/11]
N.B. one owes a mortgage {voHDajbo' wel} but pays rent/sum (of money) {qav'=
ap DIl}:
HoSHal ghajchugh vay', mI' naghmey tIronmoH. wa'maHlogh boq'egh
mI' naghmey; chen qav'ap. ghajwI'vaD qav'ap yIDIl.
If [energy source is] owned, throw dice and pay owner a total
ten times amount shown. MKE
Duj ghajchugh vay', cha'logh boq'egh qav'ap motlh; chen qav'ap le'.
ghajwI'vaD qav'ap le' yIDIl.
If [ship is] owned, pay owner twice the rental to which they are
otherwise entitled. MKE
But see also:
voHDajbo' qav'ap
mortgage value MKE
Related words:
DIl pay for (v)
ghaq contribute (v)
ngIp borrow, hire (v)
nob give (v)
nobHa' give back, return (v)
noj lend (v)
tatlh return [s.th<http://s.th>.] (v)
rup fine, tax (v)
nob gift (n)
pop reward (n)
qav'ap rent, sum, amount [of money], payment?
tev prize (n)
van'a' award (n)
voHDajbo' ransom (TKD), mortgage (MKE) (n)
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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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10pt;">> Color me stupid, but what does MKE stand for?<br>
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lu'. qaDoqmoH 'ej qaSuDmoH.<br>
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> ghunchu'wI' discusses {wel} which was introduced in the opera {'u'}:<b=
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Actually, from what I understand, this wasn't from the paq'batlh session; I=
believe it was given as some sort of teaser for Klingon Monopoly (which I =
don't think we were aware of at the time, apart from MO and vavoy).<br>
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<div>Color me stupid, but what does MKE stand for?<br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Steven Boozer <=
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<div class=3D"im">> Klingon word: wel<br>
> Part of speech: verb<br>
> Definition: owe (someone)<br>
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Used in canon:<br>
<br>
voHDajbo' wellu' 200<br>
Mortgaged for 200. MKE<br>
<br>
yervamvaD voHDajbo' wellu'chugh, 'echletHom Dopvam yIcha'<br>
Card must be turned this side up if property is mortgaged. MKE<br>
<br>
ghunchu'wI' discusses {wel} which was introduced in the opera {'u'}:<br>
<br>
When someone has earned a reward but the prize is not yet<br>
available to be given, the person in charge of presenting it<br>
can say {qawel} "I owe you}. It is probably also appropriate<br=
>
when you have convinced someone to give you some service or<br>
product with the understanding that you will pay for it later.<br>
[ghunchu'wI', 8/21/11]<br>
<br>
N.B. one owes a mortgage {voHDajbo' wel} but pays rent/sum (of money) {qav'=
ap DIl}:<br>
<br>
HoSHal ghajchugh vay', mI' naghmey tIronmoH. wa'maHlogh boq'egh<br>
mI' naghmey; chen qav'ap. ghajwI'vaD qav'ap yIDIl.<br>
If [energy source is] owned, throw dice and pay owner a total<br>
ten times amount shown. MKE<br>
<br>
Duj ghajchugh vay', cha'logh boq'egh qav'ap motlh; chen qav'ap le'.<b=
r>
ghajwI'vaD qav'ap le' yIDIl.<br>
If [ship is] owned, pay owner twice the rental to which they are<br>
otherwise entitled. MKE<br>
<br>
But see also:<br>
<br>
voHDajbo' qav'ap<br>
mortgage value MKE<br>
<br>
<br>
Related words:<br>
<br>
DIl pay for (v)<br>
ghaq contribute (v)<br>
ngIp borrow, hire (v)<br>
nob give (v)<br>
nobHa' give back, return (v)<br>
noj lend (v)<br>
tatlh return [<a href=3D"http://s.th" target=3D"_blank">s.th</a>.] (=
v)<br>
rup fine, tax (v)<br>
<br>
nob gift (n)<br>
pop reward (n)<br>
qav'ap rent, sum, amount [of money], payment?<br>
tev prize (n)<br>
van'a' award (n)<br>
voHDajbo' ransom (TKD), mortgage (MKE) (n)<br>
<br>
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Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br>
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