[93603] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Time and Type 7 verb suffixes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (seruq)
Sat Jun 9 02:50:41 2012
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 23:50:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: seruq <seruq@bellsouth.net>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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cha'Hu' lengpu' ghaH.
Does this mean that the traveling occurred all within a twenty-four hour pe=
riod, =
two days ago?
What if he had been traveling for three days, but it was two days ago when =
he =
completed the traveling?
cha'Hu' lengpu' ghaH.=A0 qaStaHvIS wej jaj leng.
=A0
cha'Hu' leng ghaH - To me, this one means the traveling took place within a =
twenty-four hour period.
=A0
cha'Hu' lengchoH ghaH - He started sometime two days ago.=A0 When did he co=
mplete =
it?=A0 Don't know; doesn't say.
=A0
cha'Hu' lengpu' ghaH - Two days ago his travels came to an end.=A0 When did=
he =
start?=A0 Don't know; doesn't say.
=A0
loSHu' lengchoH.=A0 cha'Hu' lengpu'.=A0 ...wejHu' lengtaH.
=A0
=A0
Some verbs (hit, kill, explode, shoot) do start and stop within a timestamp=
.=A0 =
They do not occur during a length of time.
=A0
If in a -pu'/-ta' the timestamp does mean that it starts and is completed w=
ithin =
that timestamp, then does that mean if the traveling occurred in one day, w=
e are =
ok; if it occurred in one week, we are ok; if it occurred in one month, we =
are =
ok, because we have timestamps for such spans of time?=A0 But if the travel=
ing =
occurred from four days ago to two days ago, then we have to recast, becaus=
e how =
would we write a timestamp that means from four days ago to two days ago?
=A0
=A0
=A0
I'm not arguing a point.=A0 It's just that many of these arguments... er, =
discussions, tend to cause me to become confused.=A0 Fortunately, colloquia=
l usage =
(in the Earth languages I played in anyways) has more flexibility than the =
formal/proper structure of that language.
(I didn't read EVERY word of this particular discussion, so I may have miss=
ed =
something.=A0 The part I did read talked about the entirety of=A0a -pu'/-ta=
'=A0event =
in the timestamp.)
=A0
=A0
DloraH
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