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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] "Never give up; never surrender"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Mon May 28 13:10:44 2012
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:09:59 -0400
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
In-Reply-To: <C96F211D-6C90-438A-A712-59EF55167C57@alcaco.net>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
On 5/26/2012 9:28 PM, ghunchu'wI' wrote:
>
> On May 26, 2012, at 6:42 PM, David Trimboli<david@trimboli.name>
> wrote:
>
>> It's been a running gag that the line from Galaxy Quest, "Never
>> give up; never surrender," comes out in Klingon as {not yIjegh;
>> not yIjegh}.
>
> A running gag in what context?
In the context of a qep'a', when Galaxy Quest is mentioned, someone will
whip out {not yIjegh; not yIjegh}.
> I've always translated it as {not yIbup; not yIjegh!} Repeating
> {jegh} seems contrived, as it carries the wrong meaning of "give up"
> for the first phrase.
How do you determine that? "Surrender, give up" carries both
connotations to me. Surrendering to the futility of a task or giving up
to an enemy work just as well as surrendering to an enemy or giving up
due to the futility of a task.
Of course repeating {jegh} sounds contrived; that's what makes it funny.
--
SuStel
http://www.trimboli.name/
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