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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon spoken in latest Big Bang Theory?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Thu May 17 11:22:35 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:22:22 +0000
In-Reply-To: <C63DB433-4FC6-4402-872E-8BC986EB256B@gmail.com>
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Are you sure the second word began with {mo-}? Both {m} and {p} are labial=
s and can often be mistaken for one another - also {b} for that matter. Th=
e only phrases the writers might have looked up I can think of are {DaHjaj =
po} "this morning" or {DaHjaj pov} this afternoon". (What time of day was =
Wolowitz's wedding?)
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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
From: lojmIt tI'wI' nuv [mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:45 PM
I just listened to it and it sounded like {DaHjaj mojaq...} and I couldn't =
hear the next word because he was interrupted. Not that {mojaq} makes any s=
ense here. Yep. It's a Klingon word, pronounced admirably well, but it had =
nothing to do with the ceremony.
Perhaps I misheard, and it was one of the stock phrases. Canon master: Anyt=
hing starting with {DaHjaj} that this could have been?
On May 16, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Wiechu wrote:
I was able to hear something like DaHjaj "mopa" 'oH, DaHja..... There's pro=
bably a letter missing between "mo" and "pa" but it was too laud for me to =
understand what's there. It definitely isn't mopwI' as there's a clear "a" =
at the end of that word.
I was also surprised that Klingon version started with DaHjaj while english=
equivalent didn't even contain "today" word.
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Courier"><span style=3D"fon=
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rier"> “this morning” or {<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">D=
aHjaj pov}</span></b> this afternoon”. (What time of day was Wo=
lowitz’s wedding?)</span></font><b><font size=3D"4" color=3D"#1f497d"=
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;"> lojmIt
tI'wI' nuv [mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 16, 201=
2 8:45 PM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I just listened to it and it sounded like {DaHjaj mo=
jaq...} and I couldn't hear the next word because he was interrupted. Not t=
hat {mojaq} makes any sense here. Yep. It's
a Klingon word, pronounced admirably well, but it had nothing to do with t=
he ceremony.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Perhaps I misheard, and it was one of the stock phra=
ses. Canon master: Anything starting with {DaHjaj} that this could have bee=
n?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">On May 16, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Wiechu wrote:<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I was able to hear something like DaHjaj "mopa&=
quot; 'oH, DaHja..... There's probably a letter missing between "mo&qu=
ot; and "pa" but it was too laud for me to understand what's
there. It definitely isn't mopwI' as there's a clear "a&quo=
t; at the end of that word.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I was also surprised that Klingon version started wi=
th DaHjaj while english equivalent didn't even contain "today" wo=
rd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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