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[Tlhingan-hol] scope of {-be'} and {-Qo'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID jonpIn)
Tue May 8 04:36:44 2012
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 10:36:29 +0200
From: "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: KLI <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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What is the scope of {-be'}? The sentence {Hoch DaSopbe'chugh batlh
bIHeghbe'} always sounded just a little strange to me. It sounds like "you
will not die, with honour" (i.e., you will not die, and your refraining
from dying is done with honour).
I recently wrote to someone who believes that he had committed a faux pas,
{batlhHa' bIvangbe'; bIQagh neH}. Now that I look at it though, it looks
like I wrote "you did not act, with dishonour" (i.e., you did nothing, and
it was dishonourable to have done nothing). My meaning was understood, but
I wonder if I could have phrased it in a better way?
I also wanted to say to someone, "Don't argue about X" (as general advice,
i.e., stay away from topic X in a particular venue, e.g., X = politics,
religion, OSes, programming languages, text editing software, etc.).
First, what is the object of {ghoH}?
I went with {Xmo' yIghoHQo'}. But on reading what I wrote, my instinct
wants to interpret this as "because of X, don't argue", i.e., X is a reason
not to argue in general. Again, what is the scope of {-Qo'} here? How
would you express the idea I wanted to convey?
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<p>What is the scope of {-be'}?=A0 The sentence {Hoch DaSopbe'chugh=
batlh bIHeghbe'} always sounded just a little strange to me.=A0 It sou=
nds like "you will not die, with honour" (i.e., you will not die,=
and your refraining from dying is done with honour).</p>
<p>I recently wrote to someone who believes that he had committed a faux pa=
s, {batlhHa' bIvangbe'; bIQagh neH}.=A0 Now that I look at it thoug=
h, it looks like I wrote "you did not act, with dishonour" (i.e.,=
you did nothing, and it was dishonourable to have done nothing).=A0 My mea=
ning was understood, but I wonder if I could have phrased it in a better wa=
y?</p>
<p>I also wanted to say to someone, "Don't argue about X" (as=
general advice, i.e., stay away from topic X in a particular venue, e.g., =
X =3D politics, religion, OSes, programming languages, text editing softwar=
e, etc.).</p>
<p>First, what is the object of {ghoH}?=A0 </p>
<p>I went with {Xmo' yIghoHQo'}.=A0 But on reading what I wrote, my=
instinct wants to interpret this as "because of X, don't argue&qu=
ot;, i.e., X is a reason not to argue in general.=A0 Again, what is the sco=
pe of {-Qo'} here?=A0 How would you express the idea I wanted to convey=
? </p>
<p>--<br>
De'vID </p>
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